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HELP ME FIND HENRIETTA FYFFE MELDRUM & FAMILY

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Isobel

Isobel Report 2 Dec 2010 23:16

Can anyone help me find the death record of Henrietta Meldrum m.s Fyffe born circa 1824 in Dundee. She married William Meldrum on 14th June 1842 in Dundee. I have found them on 1851 census living in Dundee with 4 children then they disappear??? Can you find what happened to them. Their son William born 1844 in Dundee married an Irish girl called Elizabeth O'Brien in 1866 in Glasgow. William and Elizabeth show up on the 1901 Irish Census living in Sligo. No trace of his siblings George, Charles,Elizabeth Ann and Charlotte all born Dundee. Any help on this family would be greatly appreciated

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Dec 2010 23:24

1851 is this the correct family ?

Name: John Meldrum
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name: Henretta Meldrum
Gender: Male
Where born: Banffshire
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 17 Crescent Lane
Occupation: House Painter
ED: 59
Page: 38 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 149
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1851_62
Household Members: Name Age
John Meldrum 30
Henretta Meldrum 27
William Meldrum 7
George Meldrum 6
Elizan Meldrum 4
Charlotte Meldrum 1
Leon Topping 22

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Dec 2010 23:28

On the 1866 marriage cert for William are his parents shown as deceased?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 2 Dec 2010 23:30

As I was about to do -- it's hard to search for people without things like their year of birth.

Any chance that John died and Henrietta remarried?

Charles was born after 1851? -- and where does info about him come from?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Dec 2010 23:34

1861 I suppose you have checked this one out

Name: Thomas Low
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Elisbeth Low
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/1
Registration district: Dundee First District
Civil Parish: Dundee
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Robertsons Land
Occupation: Stocker In A Spinning Mill
ED: 27
Household schedule number: 168
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1861_39
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Low 37
Elisbeth Low 37 born Dundee
Isabella Low 8
Thomas Low 6
Mary Low 3
Margrate Low 1
George Meldrum 17
John Meldrum 14
Margrate Duncan 34



George and John are listed as stepsons - born Dundee

Aileen

Aileen Report 2 Dec 2010 23:37

I took a look at marriage for William and parents are NOT given as deceased

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Dec 2010 23:57

Rule out that 1861 family as they can be found in 1851

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 Dec 2010 08:21

son Charles 1891 census

Name: Charles Meldrum
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Annie Meldrum
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/3
Registration district: St Clement
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 2 Ogilvies Road
Occupation: Landscape Gardner
ED: 15
Household schedule number: 79
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1891_92
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Meldrum 42
Annie Meldrum 35
Maggie Meldrum 11
John Meldrum 10
Henneretta Meldrum 8

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 Dec 2010 08:30

Marriage for Charles

1879 MELDRUM CHARLES MCGREGOR ANNIE PERTH /PERTH

Charles Meldrum (Gardener)widower aged 39 son of John (Painter) and Henrietta Meldrum ms Fyfe married Annie McGregor (Mill Worker) aged 31 daughter of Thomas (Gardener) and Christina ms Campbell on 16/01/1879

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 Dec 2010 08:53

I think this may be the actual marriage....

JOHN MELDRUM
Event(s):
Marriages:
Spouse: HENRIETTA FYFE
Marriage:
09 JUL 1842 Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 Dec 2010 09:06

Death for Charles......unfortunately first wife's name is illegible

1936 MELDRUM CHARLES M 86 MAINS AND STRATHMARTINE /ANGUS

cert is witnessed by H F Meldrum (daughter).....

death for Charles daughter H F Meldrum

1957 MELDRUM HENRIETTA FYFFE F 75 DUNDEE EAST DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 Dec 2010 09:33

There is this death in Ireland.....nothing to say it is her but given that her son is in the same place 1901 it has to be a possiblity

Name Henrietta Meldrum
Registration District Sligo
Event Type DEATHS
Registration Quarter and Year Jul - Sep 1905
Estimated Birth Year 1823
Age (at Death) 82
Mother's Maiden Name
Film Number 101602
Volume Number 2
Page Number 202
Digital Folder Number 4201706
Image Number 00625

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 Dec 2010 09:36

1901 IRELAND census

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Meldrum John 80 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Scotland General Merchant and Contractor Read and write - Married -
Meldrum Henrietta 76 Female Wife Presbyterian Scotland - Read and write - Married -
Meldrum John 48 Male Son Presbyterian Scotland - Read and write - Widower -
Meldrum Margaret 39 Female Daughter Presbyterian Scotland - Read and write - Not Married -
Meldrum Isabella 34 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Sligo, Ireland - Read and write - Not Married -
Meldrum Mary 15 Female Niece Presbyterian Co Sligo, Ireland - Read and write - Not Married -
Meldrum Henrietta 32 Female Daughter Presbyterian - - Read and write - Not Married

looks like they went to Ireland sometime in the 1860's and had more children

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 Dec 2010 09:42

1911 IRELAND census

Meldrum John 58 Male Brother Presbyterian Dundee Painter and Decorating Master Read and write - Widower - - - -
Meldrum Margaret 52 Female Sister Presbyterian Dundee - Read and write - Single - - - -
Meldrum Isabella 45 Female Sister Presbyterian Co Sligo - Read and write - Single - - - -
Meldrum Henrietta 40 Female Sister Presbyterian Co Sligo - Read and write - Single

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 Dec 2010 09:45

Death for John

Name John Meldrum
Registration District Sligo
Event Type DEATHS
Registration Quarter and Year Oct - Dec 1906
Estimated Birth Year 1820
Age (at Death) 86
Mother's Maiden Name
Film Number 0101603
Volume Number 2
Page Number 210
Digital Folder Number 4201707
Image Number 00207

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 Dec 2010 10:20

Death for daughter Henrietta

Name Henrietta Meldrum
Registration District Sligo
Event Type DEATHS
Registration Quarter and Year Apr - Jun 1957
Estimated Birth Year 1879
Age (at Death) 78
Mother's Maiden Name
Film Number 257856
Volume Number 2
Page Number 107
Digital Folder Number 4202553
Image Number 00086

Isobel

Isobel Report 3 Dec 2010 10:39

Good Morning Everyone,

thank you all so much for all your wonderful help. You are all brilliant I couldn't have gotten this without you. I started to wonder if they could have went to Sligo. John and Henrietta son William married a girl from Sligo in 1866 in Scotland and it started to seem possible that his parents went with him to Ireland to live. I did find William and his wife on the Irish census but couldn't get any further. All of you found what I couldn't and I can't thank you enough. I have lots of Irish ancestors I'm trying to trace. Can any of you help me with sites I should be using. I use familysearch.org that's where i found William. Which sites did you use to find all this fantastic information?

Thank you so.so much I am very grateful for all your help.

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 Dec 2010 11:43

Familysearch....also use their BETA search that's where I got the deaths from
1901 and 1911 census for Ireland are free to search and Scotland'sPeople for anything Scottish. There is also the Irish Family History Foundation site but it's expensive and I find it difficult to use

Isobel

Isobel Report 3 Dec 2010 15:12

Aileen

What age does it say Charles is when he died. There is a difference in his age at time of marriage to Annie McGregor and his age on 1891 Census by 10 years If he was 39 when he married in 1979 he was born 1839-1840 that's 3 to 4 years before his parent's marriage (don't think this is the case) or he is as stated on 1891 census 42 years old in that year which would make him born around 1848-1849 or possible 1850 which would tie up with 1851 Scottish census.
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I am beginning to think that the "Charlotte" on the 1851 census born 1850 might be "Charles" as that could tie up birth year wise.
What do you think? Is it possible for you to send me a copy of the death certificate for him and his daughter Henrietta. I can send you 2 copies of certificates you might want me to get from SP to cover the cost. Just let me know please.

Please let me thank you again for all your fantastic help, I wouldn't been able to do it without you.


Aileen

Aileen Report 4 Dec 2010 00:47

Charles was 86
I agree with you about Charles and Charlotte.
I have seen many similar discrepancies with ages without the birth its hard to be sure what is the true age.
If you can PM me with your e-mail address I can send you copies of the certs.