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Isobel
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2 Dec 2010 23:16 |
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Can anyone help me find the death record of Henrietta Meldrum m.s Fyffe born circa 1824 in Dundee. She married William Meldrum on 14th June 1842 in Dundee. I have found them on 1851 census living in Dundee with 4 children then they disappear??? Can you find what happened to them. Their son William born 1844 in Dundee married an Irish girl called Elizabeth O'Brien in 1866 in Glasgow. William and Elizabeth show up on the 1901 Irish Census living in Sligo. No trace of his siblings George, Charles,Elizabeth Ann and Charlotte all born Dundee. Any help on this family would be greatly appreciated
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GlitterBaby
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2 Dec 2010 23:24 |
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1851 is this the correct family ?
Name: John Meldrum Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relationship: Head Spouse's name: Henretta Meldrum Gender: Male Where born: Banffshire Parish Number: 282 Civil Parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: 17 Crescent Lane Occupation: House Painter ED: 59 Page: 38 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 149 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1851_62 Household Members: Name Age John Meldrum 30 Henretta Meldrum 27 William Meldrum 7 George Meldrum 6 Elizan Meldrum 4 Charlotte Meldrum 1 Leon Topping 22
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GlitterBaby
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2 Dec 2010 23:28 |
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On the 1866 marriage cert for William are his parents shown as deceased?
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JaneyCanuck
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2 Dec 2010 23:30 |
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As I was about to do -- it's hard to search for people without things like their year of birth.
Any chance that John died and Henrietta remarried?
Charles was born after 1851? -- and where does info about him come from?
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GlitterBaby
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2 Dec 2010 23:34 |
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1861 I suppose you have checked this one out
Name: Thomas Low Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Elisbeth Low Gender: Male Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire Registration Number: 282/1 Registration district: Dundee First District Civil Parish: Dundee Town: Dundee County: Angus Address: Robertsons Land Occupation: Stocker In A Spinning Mill ED: 27 Household schedule number: 168 Line: 8 Roll: CSSCT1861_39 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Low 37 Elisbeth Low 37 born Dundee Isabella Low 8 Thomas Low 6 Mary Low 3 Margrate Low 1 George Meldrum 17 John Meldrum 14 Margrate Duncan 34
George and John are listed as stepsons - born Dundee
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Aileen
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2 Dec 2010 23:37 |
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I took a look at marriage for William and parents are NOT given as deceased
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GlitterBaby
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2 Dec 2010 23:57 |
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Rule out that 1861 family as they can be found in 1851
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Aileen
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3 Dec 2010 08:21 |
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son Charles 1891 census
Name: Charles Meldrum Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Annie Meldrum Gender: Male Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire Registration Number: 282/3 Registration district: St Clement Civil Parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: 2 Ogilvies Road Occupation: Landscape Gardner ED: 15 Household schedule number: 79 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1891_92 Household Members: Name Age Charles Meldrum 42 Annie Meldrum 35 Maggie Meldrum 11 John Meldrum 10 Henneretta Meldrum 8
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Aileen
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3 Dec 2010 08:30 |
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Marriage for Charles
1879 MELDRUM CHARLES MCGREGOR ANNIE PERTH /PERTH
Charles Meldrum (Gardener)widower aged 39 son of John (Painter) and Henrietta Meldrum ms Fyfe married Annie McGregor (Mill Worker) aged 31 daughter of Thomas (Gardener) and Christina ms Campbell on 16/01/1879
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Aileen
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3 Dec 2010 08:53 |
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I think this may be the actual marriage....
JOHN MELDRUM Event(s): Marriages: Spouse: HENRIETTA FYFE Marriage: 09 JUL 1842 Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland
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Aileen
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3 Dec 2010 09:06 |
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Death for Charles......unfortunately first wife's name is illegible
1936 MELDRUM CHARLES M 86 MAINS AND STRATHMARTINE /ANGUS
cert is witnessed by H F Meldrum (daughter).....
death for Charles daughter H F Meldrum
1957 MELDRUM HENRIETTA FYFFE F 75 DUNDEE EAST DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
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Aileen
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3 Dec 2010 09:33 |
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There is this death in Ireland.....nothing to say it is her but given that her son is in the same place 1901 it has to be a possiblity
Name Henrietta Meldrum Registration District Sligo Event Type DEATHS Registration Quarter and Year Jul - Sep 1905 Estimated Birth Year 1823 Age (at Death) 82 Mother's Maiden Name Film Number 101602 Volume Number 2 Page Number 202 Digital Folder Number 4201706 Image Number 00625
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Aileen
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3 Dec 2010 09:36 |
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1901 IRELAND census
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Meldrum John 80 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Scotland General Merchant and Contractor Read and write - Married - Meldrum Henrietta 76 Female Wife Presbyterian Scotland - Read and write - Married - Meldrum John 48 Male Son Presbyterian Scotland - Read and write - Widower - Meldrum Margaret 39 Female Daughter Presbyterian Scotland - Read and write - Not Married - Meldrum Isabella 34 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Sligo, Ireland - Read and write - Not Married - Meldrum Mary 15 Female Niece Presbyterian Co Sligo, Ireland - Read and write - Not Married - Meldrum Henrietta 32 Female Daughter Presbyterian - - Read and write - Not Married
looks like they went to Ireland sometime in the 1860's and had more children
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Aileen
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3 Dec 2010 09:42 |
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1911 IRELAND census
Meldrum John 58 Male Brother Presbyterian Dundee Painter and Decorating Master Read and write - Widower - - - - Meldrum Margaret 52 Female Sister Presbyterian Dundee - Read and write - Single - - - - Meldrum Isabella 45 Female Sister Presbyterian Co Sligo - Read and write - Single - - - - Meldrum Henrietta 40 Female Sister Presbyterian Co Sligo - Read and write - Single
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Aileen
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3 Dec 2010 09:45 |
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Death for John
Name John Meldrum Registration District Sligo Event Type DEATHS Registration Quarter and Year Oct - Dec 1906 Estimated Birth Year 1820 Age (at Death) 86 Mother's Maiden Name Film Number 0101603 Volume Number 2 Page Number 210 Digital Folder Number 4201707 Image Number 00207
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Aileen
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3 Dec 2010 10:20 |
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Death for daughter Henrietta
Name Henrietta Meldrum Registration District Sligo Event Type DEATHS Registration Quarter and Year Apr - Jun 1957 Estimated Birth Year 1879 Age (at Death) 78 Mother's Maiden Name Film Number 257856 Volume Number 2 Page Number 107 Digital Folder Number 4202553 Image Number 00086
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Isobel
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3 Dec 2010 10:39 |
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Good Morning Everyone,
thank you all so much for all your wonderful help. You are all brilliant I couldn't have gotten this without you. I started to wonder if they could have went to Sligo. John and Henrietta son William married a girl from Sligo in 1866 in Scotland and it started to seem possible that his parents went with him to Ireland to live. I did find William and his wife on the Irish census but couldn't get any further. All of you found what I couldn't and I can't thank you enough. I have lots of Irish ancestors I'm trying to trace. Can any of you help me with sites I should be using. I use familysearch.org that's where i found William. Which sites did you use to find all this fantastic information?
Thank you so.so much I am very grateful for all your help.
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Aileen
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3 Dec 2010 11:43 |
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Familysearch....also use their BETA search that's where I got the deaths from 1901 and 1911 census for Ireland are free to search and Scotland'sPeople for anything Scottish. There is also the Irish Family History Foundation site but it's expensive and I find it difficult to use
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Isobel
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3 Dec 2010 15:12 |
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Aileen
What age does it say Charles is when he died. There is a difference in his age at time of marriage to Annie McGregor and his age on 1891 Census by 10 years If he was 39 when he married in 1979 he was born 1839-1840 that's 3 to 4 years before his parent's marriage (don't think this is the case) or he is as stated on 1891 census 42 years old in that year which would make him born around 1848-1849 or possible 1850 which would tie up with 1851 Scottish census. . I am beginning to think that the "Charlotte" on the 1851 census born 1850 might be "Charles" as that could tie up birth year wise. What do you think? Is it possible for you to send me a copy of the death certificate for him and his daughter Henrietta. I can send you 2 copies of certificates you might want me to get from SP to cover the cost. Just let me know please.
Please let me thank you again for all your fantastic help, I wouldn't been able to do it without you.
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Aileen
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4 Dec 2010 00:47 |
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Charles was 86 I agree with you about Charles and Charlotte. I have seen many similar discrepancies with ages without the birth its hard to be sure what is the true age. If you can PM me with your e-mail address I can send you copies of the certs.
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