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Hi my great grandmothers name is

Alice Ruby McPherson-Smith born in Fitzroy?
1st hus. Thomas Edgar Dewillock George
all the children are Georges married Fred in late 40's early 50's, before that she was his housekeeper.
2nd hus. Frederick Bayliss

her 1st daughter was my grandmother
Alice Ivy Lillie born De Laney/ DeLaney 26/4/1911
she married 2 brothers

she had 6 more girls and 1 boy, I will add the girls married names to their name
Amy Grace died young
Dulcie Violet Eva Gillespie
Laura Sophie Winnie Scott
Leslie William
Elva Doris Annie Shannahan
Josie Lyla Minnie Jordan
Gwendoline Emma Alma De Laney/ Bear

Please, If anyone is able to help me find any info about my grandmother who came from Victoria, Australia it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanking you
Debbie wife of Willy

first marriage ?

GEORGE
Alice Ivy Lillie

M

LANEY

Stanley Rupert Chas De

1934

5389

marriage of Alice to Thomas George

GEORGE
Thos Edgar De Wheelock

M

SMITH

Alice Ruby

1909

4477

birth of Alice Ruby?
Surname

Given Name(s)

Event

Sps Snm / Father

Sps Gvn / Mother

Year

Reg. No





SMITH
Alice Ruby

B

Jas

PASCOE - Alice Grace

1889

3401

Hi

can you clarify what it is you are wanting to find out.

also suggest that you edit the title to include Australia so as to attract Australian researchers

Hi Victoria,
Yes my nana Alice Ivy Lillie was married to Stanley Rupert Charles ( De Laney) one word.
So it was in 1934, that was the year my mum was born.
Thankyou very much
Debbie

Hi,

Have you checked the Australian Newspapers for your relatives?

If not you may be interested to know that there are a few articles in there on the Wheelock's including the death of Thomas Edgar De Wheelock George's accident (Note that this name is spelt differently to that in your first posting of Dewillock)

The Argus, Melbourne Monday 12 February 1934

DEATHS

GEORGE – On the 10th February (result motor accident) Thomas Edgar De Wheelock George of 15 Mell Street, Toorak and late of Oakleigh, loving father of Ivy, Dulcie, Laura, Eva, Josie and Gwen, and beloved brother of H.H and E.F (of Bass), G.G. (Grantville) and Sis. (Mrs Harding, Heywood) aged 52 years.

FUNERAL NOTICE

George – The Friends of the late Mr Thomas Edgar De Wheelock George, of 15 Mell Street, Toorak, are informed that his remains will be interred in the necropolis, Springvale.

The funeral will leave B Matthews Pty Ltd’s mortuary chapel, 102 Toorak Road, South Yarra THIS DAY (Monday, 12th February) at 10 a.m.

B MATTHEWS PTY LTD, Toorak Road, South Yarra and Oakleigh.

In case you are not familiar with the site this is the address: http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?searchTerm=Wheelock&textSearchScope=full&facet=titleid:13

Then select, the Argus, Melbourne.

Springvale Cemetery also records the following:

Cemetery Springvale Botanical Cemetery
Given Names THOMAS EDGAR DEW
Surname GEORGE


Date of Service 12/02/1934

Burial Type BURIAL
Location Details Church of England - Monumental Compartment A Section 5 Grave 8
Public Grave Y/N N
Tenure Date This memorial is held in perpetuity - for all time

Also this at an earlier date:

The Argus, Saturday, 25 May 1907

DEATHS

GEORGE – On the 14th May (suddenly) at his mother’s residence, “Cherrington”, Grantville, Robert Francis Benjamin, fourth and dearly beloved son of the late William De Malcus amd Lillie E George, brother of Walter. De Wheelock, Hugh, Eric, Naomi and Gethyn, aged 21 years and 2 months. New Zealand and English papers please copy.


Best of luck with your search

Regards

Rachelle

Hi Debbie,

Marriage of Alice Ruby McPherson Smith parents & siblings

Surname: Smith
Given Names: James born Sydney
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Pascoe
Spouses Given Names: Alice Grace born Fitzroy
Year: 1887
Registration No: 3198

Surname: Smith
Given Names: Sidney James
Event: Birth
Fathers Given Name: James
Mothers Surname: Pascoe
Mothers Given Names: Alice Grace
Birthplace: Bwick
Year: 1892
Registration No: 1503

Surname: Smith
Given Names: Sidney James
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Hastings
Spouses Given Names: Susan Isabel
Year: 1916
Registration No: 4025

child born to above

Given Names: Alison Ellen May
Fathers Given Names: James
Mothers Surname: Hastings
Mothers Given Names: Susan Isabel
Birthplace: Northcote
Year: 1917
Registration No: 14655

Surname: Smith
Given Names: Leslie
Event: Birth
Fathers Given Names: James
Mothers Surname: Pascoe
Mothers Given Names: Alice Grace
Year: 1896
Registration No: 9378

Surname: Smith
Given Names: Doris May
Event: Birth
Fathers Given Names: Jas McPherson
Mothers Surname: Pascoe
Mothers Given Names: Alice Grace
Birthplace: Grantville
Year: 1904
Registration No: 3372

Surname: Smith
Given Names: Ivy Grace
Event: Birth
Fathers Given Names: James McPherson
Mothers Surname: Pascoe
Mothers Given Names: Alice Grace
Birthplace: Grantville
Year: 1904
Registration No: 3372

Surname: George
Given Names: Wm De Malcus born Gloucester
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Bailey
Spouses Given Names: Elizabeth born Preston
Year: 1879
Registration No: 3832

Children born to the above

Given Names: Wm Ernest Walter
Mothers Given Names: Elizabeth
Birthplace: Bass
Year: 1880
Registration No: 467

Given Names: Thos Edgar Dewhellock George
Mothers Given Names: Elizabeth
Birthplace: Bass
Year: 1881
Registration No: 21243

Given Names: Herbert Hugh De Luput
Mothers Given Names: Lillie Elizabeth
Birthplace: Bass
Year: 1883
Registration No: 21428

Given Names: Robert Francis
Mothers Given Names: Lillie Elizabeth
Birthplace: Gran
Year: 1886
Registration No: 26539

Given Names: Chas. De Malcus Edwd
Mothers Given Names: Lillie Eliz
Birthplace: Grantville
Year: 1889
Registration No: 4017

Given Names: Emily Mary Naomi
Mothers Given Names: Lillie Eliz
Birthplace: Grantville
Year: 1891
Registration No: 33615

Given Names: Jno Gethryn Gilbert
Mothers Given Names: Lillie Eliz
Birthplace: Grantville
Year: 1895
Registration No: 21270

Hi Rachelle,
I would like to thank you. This info is so helpful, my mother is over the moon. I never thought to check the papers before, I will try it out tomorrow when I have some time to myself.

Thanking you
Debbie wife of Willy
(have to put that so people Know who I am)

Hi Mel,
Thankyou for all your hard work, it is greatly appreciated. You have taken us back another generation altogether. It has all helped my mum remember family from when she was a little girl.

Thanking you again
Debbie wife of Willy (so you know it is me)

Debbie,

Correction to Ivy Grace - birth year should be 1907, registration no: 27225, gave previous details of Doris.

Joy

Thankyou Joy

Here is Alice's death:

Surname: BAYLISS
Given Names: Alice Ruby
Father: Mcpherson Smith
Mother: Alice Grace PASCOE
Death Place: HEA
Age: 86
Year: 1974
Reg Number: 5861
Event: D

She had a sister named Doris Mary who died as KENTISH in Kew Vic in 1976 aged 72.

This is her father's death:

Surname: SMITH
Given Names: Jas Mcpherson
Father: Smith Jno
Mother: Eliza MORRIS
Death Place: SAN REMO
Age: 80
Year: 1943
Reg Number: 20699
Event: D

His death notice from the Argus newspaper, Thursday 2 September 1943:
SMITH,-On August 31, at Grantville, James Mcpherson, dearly beloved husband of Alice Grace, loving father of Ruby (Mrs. Bayliss), Sydney, Lesley (deceased, late of 38th Battalion, First A.I.F.), Doris (Mrs. Kentish), and Ivy (Mrs. Earl), aged 80 years. -Peacefully sleeping.

He was interred at Grantville.

It seems Alice was known to her family as Ruby. Here is brother Sydney:

Surname: SMITH
Given Names: Sydney James
Father: James Mcpher
Mother: UNKNOWN
Death Place: BALW
Age: 77
Year: 1969
Reg Number: 5681
Event: D

No death found for Alice Grace.

Alice's first husband's death:

Surname: GEORGE
Given Names: Thos Edgar Dewheelock
Father: George Wm Edwd Demalcus
Mother: Liln Elizth BAILEY
Death Place: PRAN
Age: 52
Year: 1934
Reg Number: 1617
Event: D

Just before Christmas, how very sad.

The Argus, Thursday 23 December 1943
SMITH.-On December 21, at her home, at Grantville. Alice Grace, dearly beloved wife of the late James, and fond mother of Ruby (Mrs. Bayliss), Sidney, Leslie (deceased). Doris (Mrs. Kentish), Ivy (Mrs. Earl), aged 80 years. -Thy will be done.

The Argus, Thursday 21 December 1944
SMITH.-In loving memory of my dear mother, who passed away December 21, 1943; also dear dad, who passed away August 31, 1943. -Sweet memories. (Inserted by their loving daughter and son-in-law, Ruby and Fred Bayliss.)
SMITH.-In loving memory of our darling mother, who passed away at Grantville December 21, 1943; also our dear dad, August 31, 1943. - Memories still hold dear as it dawns the first sad year. (Inserted by Doris, Frank and grandson, Kevin.)
SMITH.-Everlasting memories of our dear mother and grannie, who passed away at Grantville December 21, 1943. -A life made beautiful by her kindly deeds. (Inserted by her loving daughter, Ivy, and grandson, Geoffrey Earl.)
SMITH-In loving memory of our darling grandmother. who passed away at Grantville December 21 1943; also dear grandfather, August 31, 1943. -Fond memories. (Inserted by their loving grandchildren. Nellie, Mrs Kupsch; Betty, Mrs. Priest); and Jim Smith.
SMITH-In loving memory of our dear grandmother, passed away December 21, 1943; also our dear grandfather, August 31, 1943. -Alwavs in our thoughts. (Laura and Richard.)

This must be the one:

Surname: SMITH
Given Names: Alice
Father: Pascoe Jno
Mother: Eliza MORRIS
Death Place: SAN REMO
Age:
Year: 1943
Reg Number: 22666
Event: D


See http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

Hi Debbie,

There is a website that you can look at Leslie Smiths WW1 Service Records, his service no: 1297

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

Thankyou Cherilyn, I appreciate all the help you have given me, it is filling in many empty spaces

Thanking you again

Debbie

Thanks Mel,
I went there yesterday to check out my dad, didn't think about Leslie Smith

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? Debbie
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Hi Debbie, no problems.

Just a tip when you are searching the library database, if you eventually run out of people's names to search for, perform a search using any house and street names that you have recorded. It is often interesting what happened at older homes over the years, remembering that mny births and deaths were at home, and a lot of burials would depart from the deceased's residence.

It is a great site very useful for looking up people, information about ships that people arrived in, court cases, anything! Given that it has newspapers all over Australia I have found it invaluable.

Best of luck, if you need a hand feel free to send me a message, I'm happy to help.

Kind regards

Rachelle

Hi Rachelle,
thanks for the tips. What is the website for the library database? I should visit it, by the sounds of things...
Debbie

Thanks Joy,
I went and checked out Leslie on WW1 Service Records and 38 pages later it was quite interesting and very helpful. Letters from my great grandfather and his sister, great!
I really appreciate your help

Debbie