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MotownGal

MotownGal Report 28 Dec 2010 21:02

Can someone do my a kindness please?

There is some kind of discrepancy on freeBMD and I cannot find the marriage partner for the following

Ellen McMullen marriage Sunderland December 1908.

I cannot find her husband, has someone got other records that can be accessed please?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 28 Dec 2010 21:09

Name: MCMULLEN, Ellen
Registration District: Sunderland
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 10A
Page No: 1426

Is this the Ellen you are looking at the marriage for?

1901
MCMULLEN, Ellen Head Widow F 35 1866 Widow Of Coal Miner
Crook
Durham

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 28 Dec 2010 21:15

Thank you so much for your reply.

But what does that mean?

Is there some 100 year restriction of this information.

If I can access my own marriage, many years later, what would be the restriction of this?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 28 Dec 2010 21:19

There is no restriction..Its just that the page Number that Ellen is on is hard to read on the index and freebmd cant match up a possible spouse for her.
And the spouses surname was not added to indexs until 1912,as it says

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 28 Dec 2010 21:26

Aaah, I see.

By the description you have written/copied I read it as some kind of restriction. My error.

You are right, this is the same lady.

Will I be able to get a marriage certificate if I only have the name of the bride?

jax

jax Report 28 Dec 2010 21:27


Person: MCMULLEN, Edward
Address: 20 Clanney St Sunderland

Cost:
You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 10 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.


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BRIGHAM, Ellen Head Widow F 45 1866 Crook Durham VIEW
MCMULLEN, Joseph Son Single M 21 1890 Colliery Labourer Above Ground Woodland Durham VIEW
MCMULLEN, Edward Son Single M 15 1896 Colliery Labourer Above Ground Ryhope Durham VIEW
MCMULLEN, Ephirm Son M 11 1900 School Blyth Northumberland VIEW
BRIGHAM, Matthew Telfort Son M 6 1905 Grangetown Durham VIEW

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Dec 2010 21:29

Do you have a birth year for your Ellen please?

As FBG says the original index is very difficult to read. The volume number is clearly 10a but the page number is almost impossible - it looks like 142 something!

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 28 Dec 2010 21:30

Thank you Jax.

Scuse me for being so dense, but does that she married him in 1908 and by 1911 he too, was dead?

What was this lady doing.

I presume he too was a miner, so the death rate was pretty high.

Thanks again.

Maddie

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 28 Dec 2010 21:31

If the Ellen Mcmullen I identified on 1901 is the one you are following.Then this her on 1911


BRIGHAM, Ellen Head Widow F 45 1866 Crook Durham
MCMULLEN, Joseph Son Single M 21 1890 Colliery Labourer Above Ground Woodland Durham
MCMULLEN, Edward Son Single M 15 1896 Colliery Labourer Above Ground Ryhope Durham
MCMULLEN, Ephirm Son M 11 1900 School Blyth Northumberland
BRIGHAM, Matthew Telfort Son M 6 1905 Grangetown Durham

Registration District:
Sunderland Sub District:
Sunderland West Enumeration District:
32 Parish:
Sunderland

Address:
20 Clanney St Sunderland County:
Durham

And the other bit of the marriage ,which gives you his christian name

Marriages Dec 1908
BRIGHAM Robert Sunderland 10a 1126

jax

jax Report 28 Dec 2010 21:32

??

Deaths Dec 1910 (>99%)
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Brigham Robert 48 Sunderland 10a 362

jax

jax Report 28 Dec 2010 21:34

sorry Fans beat yer to it

No she could'nt make these husbands last long

jax

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Dec 2010 21:35

1901 England Census
about Joseph McMullen
Name: Joseph McMullen
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Ellen McMullen
Gender: Male
Where born: Woodlands, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Tunstall
Ecclesiastical parish: Silksworth St Matthew
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishopwearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen McMullen 35
Joseph McMullen 11
Margaret McMullen 8
Edward McMullen 5
Ephraim McMullen 1

this correspondes with the 1911

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 28 Dec 2010 21:37





But only after I had given you a lead to go on with the 1901 I posted of Ellen McMullen.Jax..!

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 28 Dec 2010 21:37

Ellen was born 1866c.

Born Ellen Telford in Crook, Co Durham.

Presumably I will be able to find her husband Brigham from death records?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Dec 2010 21:38

If this is him , he was a Rivetter.

Name: Robert Brigham
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Holy Island, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: North Bishopwearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 149
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Brigham 39
Isabella Brigham 18
Mary K Brigham 15
Christine Brigham 14
John R Brigham 12
Phyllis W Brigham 6

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 28 Dec 2010 21:39

Brilliant, thanks everyone, I was beggering about putting the info into the tree while you were all posting.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL.

Much appreciated.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Dec 2010 21:44

Something that may be of interest to you......Next door to the Mcmullen's in the 1901 Census is the Arnott family who have a visitor.........Joseph Mcmullen, single age 21. A Coal Miner born 1880 Sunderland Durham.

jax

jax Report 28 Dec 2010 21:46

yeah but I still had to look it up fans to find out the kids names, luckerly they kept their surname huh

jax

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 28 Dec 2010 21:56

Well Joseph is Ellens son. So maybe he was staying there cos there was a house full of kids.

Curious, but interesting.

Thanks.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Dec 2010 21:57

Here is Margaret........


1911 census - household transcription
Person: MCMULLEN, Margaret Ellen
Address: 11 George Street East New Silksworth Sunderland

DUFFIELD, Edward Head Married M 32 1879 Coal Miner Hewer Durham Tunstall VIEW
DUFFIELD, Keziah Wife Married
12 years F 33 1878 Durham Hunwick VIEW
DUFFIELD, James Son Single M 11 1900 School Durham Tunstall VIEW
DUFFIELD, Isabell Daughter Single F 9 1902 Durham Tunstall VIEW
DUFFIELD, Elizabeth Ann Daughter Single F 8 1903 Durham Tunstall VIEW
DUFFIELD, Keziah Daughter Single F 4 1907 Durham Tunstall VIEW
DUFFIELD, Ella Daughter Single F 2 1909 Durham Tunstall VIEW
DUFFIELD, Edward Son M 0 1911 Durham Tunstall VIEW
MCMULLEN, Margaret Ellen Servant Single F 18 1893 General Servant Domestic Durham Spennymoor VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30254 Reference:
RG14PN30254 RG78PN1744 RD555 SD5 ED7 SN49

Registration District:
Sunderland Sub District:
Ryhope Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Tunstall

Births Sep 1892 (>99%)
McMullen Margaret Ellen Auckland 10a 217

Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
McMullen Joseph Auckland 10a 233

Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
McMullen Edward Auckland 10a 201

Births Sep 1899 (>99%)
McMullen Ephraim Tynemouth 10b 352

Births Sep 1904 (>99%)
Brigham Matthew Telfort Sunderland 10a 697