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My 4th g.grandfather Peter anderson was b 1786 to Alexander anderson & Janet Mc Kenzie 1786 in Inverness but I can not find a marriage for them.They would only have been about 16 years old.Does anyone have them in their family?There was a Janet Mc Kenzie b in Oldhamstock,near Dunbar in 1770 who may be the right Janet but I can not verify her.

Thanks,Barbara,I think I may have sent 2 replies.but this date would be too late for Janet & Alexander as they were both deceased by then.I have been on Scotlands people with success for later Andersons but the early ones are very elusive.

Thanks Rootgatherer,
Yes,the early records are very patchy,I was basing my hopes for this one on the fact that the son Peter Anderson was married in Dunbar and later descendants moved from Inverness to South Leith,Midlothian.
I'll just keep hoping someone will have them in their family tree.

Results for: Inverness, Scotland, British Isles
Father: Alexander Anderson, Mother: Janet
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Batch Number: c111062

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6. JOHN ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 05 MAR 1773
7. JOHN ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 MAR 1773 Petty, Inverness, Scotland

4. ALEXANDER ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 26 APR 1774
5. ALEXANDER ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: APR 1774 Petty, Inverness, Scotland

2. WILLIAM ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 24 MAY 1776
3. WILLIAM ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 MAY 1776 Petty, Inverness, Scotland

8. JANNET ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 10 MAY 1779 Petty, Inverness, Scotland

1. JAMES ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 22 MAR 1782 Petty, Inverness, Scotland

9. PETER ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 10 AUG 1786
10. PETER ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 10 AUG 1786 Petty, Inverness, Scotland

The first 5 births have mum=Janet Young, only the last has mum=Janet McKenzie.
Incidentally, the IGI treats Janet and Jessie as different names - must be some US thing]


There are gaps in the Petty marr register - this from the LDS FHL catalog:

Title Parish registers for Petty, 1633-1854
Authors Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Petty (Inverness) (Main Author)
Notes Microfilm of O.P.R. ms. no. 106 in the New Register House, Edinburgh.
Missing years: Baptisms, Oct. 1659-Jan. 1704, May 1739-June 1749 (except five irregular entries 1742-1748) one entry Apr. 1753-Nov. 1755. No entries May 1757-Nov. 1758; marriages 1661-1704, Mar. 1739-Nov. 1758, Dec. 1762-jan. 1770, Dec. 1777-Nov. 1783, Feb. 1792-Jan. 1802.

Note Location Film
Vol. 1. Baptisms, 1635-1757; Marriages, 1657-1739. Vol. 2. Baptisms, 1758-1819; Marriages 1758-1819. (Preferred film for viewing. Use this before ordering the other filming.) FHL BRITISH Film 990714
Vol. 3. Baptisms, 1800-1819; Marriages, 1800-1819; Burials, 1800-1819. Vol. 4. Baptisms, 1820-1854; Marriages, 1820-1854; Burials, 1820-1853; Register of neglected entries, 1840-1846. (Preferred film for viewing. Use this before ordering the other filming.) FHL BRITISH Film 990715
Another filming, 1952. VAULT BRITISH Film 102013 Items 3 - 4
Another filming, 1952. VAULT BRITISH Film 102014


I would get Peter's baptismal record - does it refer to Janet as his wife? If so it probably was in Petty in the gap 12/84-1/92.

NB one can't tell the marital status from the IGI entry - the same IGI entry as Peter's (with suitable name and date changes) exists for my g gran, but the actual parish register reads:
Lonmay OPR 1854
25th November 1854
Elizabeth Johnston, illegitimate daughter of James
Johnston Farm Servant Adie, Cruden & Elizabeth Anderson
Crisekelly, was born 25th November 1853, & baptized by Mr.
Gibbon 4th January 1854 before witnessess viz: William
Anderson & Elizabeth Scott, Crisekelly
[Adie is probably a misrecording of Adnie, and the witnesses were Eliz J's grandparents]


It doesn't usually state how long they were married on Memorial inscriptions, but if they're buried in the same lair, it would probably refer to them as husband and wife.
I mention this as I saw a pic of Petty cemetery, and it looks like a nice well-kept place.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/315483

I would see if there's a cemetery index available - try:
http://www.highland.gov.uk/leisureandtourism/what-to-see/familyhistory/



Finally, Oldhamstocks ELN (near Dunbar), seems quite unlikely, especially as there's at least 2 local Janets around. Why did you think that?

Results for: Janet Mckenzie, Scotland, British Isles
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7. JANNET MC KENZIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 MAY 1764 Petty, Inverness, Scotland

8. JANET MC KENZIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 23 JUN 1767
9. JANET MC KENZIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 JUN 1767 Petty, Inverness, Scotland

Many thanks for all the information,I'll go through it all carefully and see if I can connect with any of it,and get back on to Scotland's people again.

My previous message was to mgnv,again thanks for all the information.Also many thanks,Rootgatherer,specially for the info about the tree on Ancestry.co.
I had discounted the Jannet Young as her family didn't seem to fit in with the children of Peter Anderson who from his marriage I have full records of,it's just the earlier ones I'm looking for.
It looks as though I will have to subscribe to Ancestry.co to getin touch with the Gould/McKenzie tree.
In the Family search there is the birth of Peter with Janet McKenzie dexcribed as spouse to Alexanderanderson but I can find no record of marriage or any other children to the couple.
Thanks again for all the info from you all,and I'll get started again.

I agree with what rootgather says about familysearch and scotlandspeople but with this reservation - I have found at least two parishes for Scotland on family search where only girls' baptisms come up!

Before I saw rootg's tree, I was thinking maybe Janet M was a 2nd wife.
I think these are people on the tree:

Piece: SCT1841/692 Place: Leith South -Midlothian Enumeration District: 8
Civil Parish: Leith South Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 8 Page: 8
Address: Kirkgate
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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ANDERSON Peter M 50 Kirk Officer Outside Census County (1841)
ANDERSON Christian F 50 Outside Census County (1841)
ANDERSON James M 20 Printer Journeyman Midlothian
Page: 8/9 SUTHERLAND Nicolson M 5 Orphan Midlothian
WHITE Elizabeth F 5 Orphan Midlothian
PURDIE Rob M 40 Labourer Outside Census County (1841)

Piece: SCT1851/692 Place: South Leith -Midlothian Enumeration District: 22
Civil Parish: South Leith Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: South Leith
Folio: 748 Page: 3 Schedule: 10
Address: 103 Kirkgate
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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ANDERSON Jane Head W F 27 Fife - Dunfermline
ANDERSON Christian Dau - F 8 Midlothian - South Leith
ANDERSON Catherine Dau - F 6 Midlothian - South Leith
ANDERSON Elizabeth Dau - F 5 Midlothian - South Leith
ANDERSON Janet Dau - F 5 Midlothian - South Leith
ANDERSON Jane Dau - F 5 Midlothian - South Leith
ANDERSON Jamima Dau - F 1m Midlothian - South Leith
ANDERSON Peter Fa-Law U M 55 Inverness-shire - -



Results for: James Anderson, Midlothian, Scotland, British Isles
Spouse: Jane Sinclair
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Batch Number: m195048

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1. JAMES ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 19 NOV 1841 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland


Results for: Midlothian, Scotland, British Isles
Father: James Anderson, Mother: Jane Sinclair
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Batch Number: c195047
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1. CHRISTIAN PURDIE ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 AUG 1842 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

Batch Number: c195046

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1. CATHERINE MURRAY ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 JAN 1845 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

2. JANET ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 AUG 1846 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

3. ELISABETH ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 AUG 1846 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

4. JANE ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 FEB 1849 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

5. JEMIMA FRASER ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 MAR 1851 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

[Looks like Janet + Elizabeth really are twins]

Whether this is your Alex, I don't know - the age fits the tree, and his first son is Peter, but I don't have an Ancestry sub.

Piece: SCT1841/692 Place: Leith South -Midlothian Enumeration District: 30
Civil Parish: Leith South Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Leith South
Folio: 30 Page: 14
Address: Old Sugar House Close
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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ANDERSON Alexander M 18 Cooper Jrnymn Midlothian
ANDERSON Mary F 18 Midlothian
ANDERSON Peter M 1 Midlothian

Piece: SCT1851/692 Place: South Leith -Midlothian Enumeration District: 8
Civil Parish: South Leith Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: South Leith
Folio: 747 Page: 14 Schedule: 65
Address: 3 Giles Street
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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ANDERSON Alexander Head M M 28 Cooper Midlothian - South Leith
ANDERSON Mary Wife M F 28 Midlothian - South Leith
ANDERSON Peter Son U M 11 Scholar Midlothian - South Leith
ANDERSON Alexander Son U M 7 Scholar Midlothian - South Leith
ANDERSON William Son U M 4 Midlothian - South Leith
ANDERSON Grace Dau U F 2 Midlothian - South Leith


Results for: Alexander Anderson, Midlothian, Scotland, British Isles
Spouse: Mary Robertson
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1. ALEXANDER ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 24 FEB 1840 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland


Results for: Birth/Christening, Scotland, British Isles
Father: Alexander Anderson, Mother: Mary Robertson
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1. PETER ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 26 JUL 1840 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

2. JOHN ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 JUL 1842 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

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1. ALEXANDER ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 DEC 1844 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland
3. ALEXANDER ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 DEC 1844 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

2. GRACE ROBERTSON ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 AUG 1849 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

Re SP and the IGI - I'ld agree with rootg's 1st bit, but my impression was that the IGI's coverage was only about 80%. I've come across a few submitted entries where there's no OPR extract, but it's turned out there is an actual OPR entry on SP. I've not yet come across a girls only batch in SCT, although I've come across some in ENG, with C-P batch #s too - one knows the J-K batches are sexed.

My ggg grandad William Anderson b 1797 Banffshire is an example where there's only a submitted entry on the IGI, but there's an OPR entry on SP.

Thanks Mgnv,
You've gone to a lot of trouble,I have most of these records but a couple I didn't have.
I have Peter Anderson's family from when he married Christian Purdie but it's his parents who are the problem,as Alexander was only 16 when his son was born there is the possibilty they never married or married other people.Sometimes you never find anything and reconcile yourself it's as far as you can go.
Thanks again.

The tree has Janet a=81 d 1851 in Elgin. There is one on 30/3/1851, viz Thomas Christie's aunt, but she's unwed and pob=Elgin, so I wonder abt that
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Census Place
ANDERSON Janet Aunt U F 81 Morayshire - Elgin Elgin Burgh

She was on the same street in 1841:

Piece: SCT1841/135 Place: Elgin -Morayshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Elgin Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 2 Page: 12
Address: Christies Close
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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ANDERSON Jannet F 70 Independent Morayshire


For completeness, I ought to report I also found:

Piece: SCT1841/135 Place: Elgin -Morayshire Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Elgin Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 5 Page: 11
Address: Overton
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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HARDIE William M 54 Farmer Morayshire
HARDIE Jane F 48 Morayshire
HARDIE John M 26 Morayshire
HARDIE Alexr M 23 Morayshire
HARDIE Janet F 17 Morayshire
HARDIE Jane F 15 Morayshire
HARDIE Margaret F 13 Morayshire
HARDIE James M 10 Morayshire
SMITH Robert M 10 Male Servant Morayshire
MCKENZIE Janet F 71 Outside Census County (1841)

It's not really clear to me why she'ld be in Elgin. I would think it's definitely worth contacting the tree owner, but before I forked over a month's sub, I'ld try the local library and the local LDS FHC. You can find the latter in the centre col of:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

Another alternative is to ask someone to forward a message for you - this should be handled by pm's. Either way, the message ought to have your real email addy so you can continue contact (and receive attachments).

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Thanks,mgnv,you've given me a lot of info to work on and I hope I can progress further with my search.
I'm really grateful for all the suggestions you've made.Thanks again/