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Alice Mason c1881 Lancashire

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Angela

Angela Report 2 Jun 2010 10:08

Looking for Alice Mason (maybe Eliza Alice ) c1882, from Skelmersdale/Ormskirk area, married George Quinn 1915 Lancashire.
She had a brother James or William, I think, and either sisters or close cousins Jane/Jenny/Ginny and Sally/Sarah.
I can't find out exactly which Mason family they are from; I think their father was Robert c1845.

Vera

Vera Report 2 Jun 2010 10:18

1891

Alice Mason
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robe
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Aughton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Skelmersdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Skelmersdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: Lathom
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robe Mason 46 it is Robert labourer
Ellen Mason 42
Jane Mason 13
Alice Mason 10
Sarah Mason 8
Mary Mason 6


Regards vera

Dea

Dea Report 2 Jun 2010 10:21

I was looking at this one??

1891 England Census
about Alice M Mason
Name: Alice M Mason
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Tranmere
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England


Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Mason 34 ........... Gas Inspector.
Elizabeth Mason 33
Alice M Mason 8
William J Mason 6
Robert B Mason 5
Harold H Mason 3
Lilian Mason 10/12
Ellen Brereton 54
Alice Brereton 26
Louisa Brereton 15

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2887; Folio 58; Page 47; GSU roll: 6097997.


Angela.....

Did you get father's details from marriage cert, if so, can you give us ALL the other details from the certs please, including witnesses, occupations, etc.

Thanks,

Dea x

Vera

Vera Report 2 Jun 2010 10:21

1901
Robert Mason
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Maghull, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Skelmersdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: Lathom
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 80
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Mason 56
Ellen Mason 52
Sarah Mason 18
Mary Mason 15
James Mason 7


regards vera

Vera

Vera Report 2 Jun 2010 10:27

1881
Robert Mason
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Maghull, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Bickerstaffe
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: Liverpool Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: Bickerstaffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Mason 36
Ellen Mason 31
Ellen Mason 13
Elizabeth Mason 6
Jane Mason 3
Alice Mason 11 months


regards vera

Dea

Dea Report 2 Jun 2010 10:27

For interest (as Lancashire is a big place), - they were married in Liverpool:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1915

MASON Alice QUINN George Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/107/48

Dea x

Vera

Vera Report 2 Jun 2010 10:36

Births Jun 1880 (>99%)
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MASON Alice Ormskirk 8b 811

Aughton, lancashire comes under ormskirk


regards vera

Angela

Angela Report 2 Jun 2010 10:56

thanks for your help, maybe you can help solve this one.
I was always told Alice died 6wks after I was born, so that would be early 1956, but on a photo of the gravestone, it looks like died 1960. Which is correct?

Dea

Dea Report 2 Jun 2010 11:07

Angela,

We haven't established which is the correct Alice yet - you didn't tell us any details from the marriage cert.

Dea x

Angela

Angela Report 2 Jun 2010 12:18

Alice Mason definitely married George Quinn, they moved to Totternhoe, Beds, when my Dad, John Noel and twin Doreen were nine (b1920) and stayed with his sister, Frances (Fanny Quinn) and husband William Turner, in Totternhoe. at The Cross Keys

Dea

Dea Report 2 Jun 2010 12:28

Angela,

I am not disputing the fact that 'your' Alice married George Quinn, I just thought you were trying to establish her correct family, with father Robert.

There are a few possibles so the details from that wedding cert would give us more to go on.

Do you have the cert, if not, how have you established that her father was Robert c 1845?

Do you know what Robert's occupation was, or any other details about him please?

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 2 Jun 2010 12:31

This is the closest I can come up with for a death for Alice, from what you have now said:

Alice Quinn
Death Registration Month/Year: 1956
Age at death (estimated): 75
Registration district: Luton
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 4a
Page: 139

Dea x

Vera

Vera Report 2 Jun 2010 12:32

Angela,
I found this death.....

Alice Quinn
Death Registration Month/Year: 1956
Age at death (estimated): 75
Registration district: Luton
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 4a
Page: 139



regards vera

Vera

Vera Report 2 Jun 2010 12:33

Snap Dea......:-))

regards vera

Dea

Dea Report 2 Jun 2010 19:51

nudge for Angela !!

Dea x

Angela

Angela Report 3 Jun 2010 09:38

my auntie Doreen (Quinn) Dixon is Alice's daughter and only living relative I know - she is 90, but as they moved away from Lancs 80 years ago, she doesn't have contact with any living relatives and her memory is sketchy, so working on info she has told me and anything I can remember my granddad telling me some 40 years ago!.

Dea

Dea Report 3 Jun 2010 09:53

Yes, it is difficult when you have no other relatives to ask and I am not surprised that your Auntie Doreen's memory is a bit 'sketchy' - she has reached a good age !

I think we have found the correct death details from what you have told us - what else did it say on the gravestone and where was it? - Do you think it is the correct one?

The only was to be sure you are following the correct Alice backwards would be to get hold of that marriage cert to find further details on her father.

I have a feeling that the one which Vera originally posted will prove to be the one, in which case, I believe her mother's maiden name was probably Cropper.

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1880
MASON Alice Aughton Preston CROPPER A/12/33

Only certs will prove this though.

Dea x

Angela

Angela Report 3 Jun 2010 13:58

M y gran and grampy lived in Totternhoe, Beds, after they moved from Lancs. They lived in The Ride and Grampy moved to Park Avenue some years after gran died.
Grans sister/cousin - Sal/Sarah apparently married a sailor, and when gran lived in Liverpool area she was a private cleaner.

Mike *

Mike * Report 3 Jun 2010 14:40

Alice's parent's marriage ?

Marriage: 8 Jan 1867 St Michael, Aughton, Lancashire, England
Robert Mason - of full age Labourer Bachelor of Aughton
Ellen Cropper - 19 yrs Spinster of Aughton
Groom's Father: John Mason, Stonemason
Bride's Father: Joshua Cropper, Farmer
Witness: John Cropper; Margaret Martland; Elizabeth Cropper
Married by Banns by: W H Boulton Rector

Angela

Angela Report 3 Jan 2011 21:52

thank you for all of your help