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I am trying to find the marriage of a Mary Rylands born about 1842 in Warrington to a Mr Joyce possibly in the Manchester area about 1861. Any help or advice very much appreciated on this matter

Have you checked for it here?

freebmd.org.uk

Have you tried looking on this site:

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Edit: Can't find it. What evidence do you have that they married?

thanks will go and see now x
No could not find it!!
I know that Mary was married to ? Joyce as when she remarried she is down as a widow

Its not showing on there..

Do you know Mr Joyces first name please?

Lancashire.

When was the first child born?

Oh dear, I don't want to complicate things, all I know is that she had a son called John Joyce on the 1881 Census with her new husband and his family.
If I remember correctly he was 15yrs old at that time not too sure now! say about 1866 and he was down as born Manchester

If you would like to give a census with her on maybe we can track her back and help.?

When did she re-marry and what was her second husband's name?

Ah Potty that I can answer, she remarried September 1879 in Salford Manchester to a Samuel Glithero who lived in Crown Lane, a Beer Retailer, am sure he is on the 1881 Census with the new family

1881,,,no John Joyce.

GLITHROE, Samuel Head Married M 36 1845 Beerhouse Keeper
Northampton
Northamptonshire
GLITHROE, Mary Wife Married F 38 1843
Warrington
Buckinghamshire
GLITHROE, Sarah Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar
Manchester
Lancashire
GLITHROE, Andrew Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Manchester
Lancashire
GLITHROE, Edith Ellen Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Manchester
Lancashire
GLITHROE, Joseph Patrick Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Manchester
Lancashire
GLITHROE, John Son Single M 4 1877
Manchester
Lancashire
>>>>>>>>>>>>MACINTOSH, Sarah Mother In Law Married F 69 1812 Assist In Housework
Manchester
Lancashire
GLITHROE, Jacob Brother Widower M 56 1825 Hawker
Manchester
Lancashire
QUINLAN, Catherine Boarder Widow F 32 1849 Genl Servant
Northampton
Northamptonshire
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
4004 Folio:
124 Page:
23

Registration District:
Manchester Sub District:
St George Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Manchester Municipal Borough:
Address:
51, Crown Lane, Manchester County:
Lancashire


But whos mother in Law?

First or second wifes?

From Lancashire bmd - marriage of Samuel to Mary Joyce nee Rylands:

GLITHERO Samuel JOYCE Mary Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester MCR_RM/98/83
GLITHERO Samuel RYLANDS Mary Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester MCR_RM/98/83
JOYCE Mary GLITHERO Samuel Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester MCR_RM/98/83
RYLANDS Mary GLITHERO Samuel Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester

hmmm thank you for that but I do recall seeing the name John Joyce on the Census not Glithero!

Potty I don't know as at first I thought it was his new wife's mother but then thought it might be his first wife's mother as if you notice their first daughter is called Sarah!

Possible first marriage for Samuel but not to a Macintosh:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GLITHERO Samuel BUCKLEY Ann Manchester Cathedral (formerly Manchester Collegiate Church) Manchester

I think it is is his first wifes mother.

Or maybe his brothers wifes mother?

Or maybe which ever one she is she might have remaried just to confuse us even more lol!!

1891


GLITHERS, Samuel Head Married M 46 1845 Beer House Keeper
Weldon
Northamptonshire
GLITHERS, Mary Wife Married F 48 1843
Warrington
GLITHERS, Edith E Daughter F 15 1876
Manchester
GLITHERS, Mary Agnes Daughter F 8 1883
Manchester
>>>>>>>JOYCE, John Stepson M 15 1876
Manchester
GUY, Jwly Servant F 38 1853 Servant
Manchester
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3247 Folio:
106 Page:
30

Registration District:
Manchester Sub District:
St George Enumeration District:
25 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Michaels

Civil Parish:
Manchester Municipal Borough:
Manchester Address:
47 & 51, Crown Lane, Manchester County:
Lancashire



In 1901 they are in Aberystwyth !

Just had a thought what if she married in Ireland, as Joyce is a very popular name there?

What is her fathers name and occupation on her marriage to Samuel?


Maybe look for John Joyces birth to give you his fathers name?