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my grandads parents were not married his dad was called sirral but his surname was not marsden which is grandads his mother was married to a guy with the surname marsden his older brother is his half brother but his three sister and him share the same dad any tips on how to find his dad as i only have his aprox year of death and grandad isn't 100% sure of his surname can't ask too much as it is quiet sensitive

Not a lot to go on here to help you, no dates, places etc?

Only one Sirral in Ancestry from 1900 to 1920

Sirral SPOWART born 1901 AMJ Morpeth Durham

Your post is very difficult to understand.

Was your grandad's dad called sirral or do you mean Cyril? Do you have your grandad's birth certificate and if so, is there a father named on it?

i know he died around the time my grandadwas 10 have tried searching death records from 1945 onwards am still checking 1946 and 47 no luck yet i only found out about this at his 70th everytime i have asked it's very vaugue think his surname began with am m aswell not too sure but thankyou i meant cyril sorry i am a bad speller

I'm not sure how you can check the death indexes if you don't know his surname :-)

Is he named on your grandad's birth certificate or not?

Christine,

Could your grandad's sisters have had their father's name at Birth?

BW

Jane

no they all had lena's husband's surname

Hi everyone. I am looking for people with the name Zugg and Bettridge in England. I am finding it extremely difficult. If anyone has any info it would be greatly appreciated.

Amanda, you would be better off starting a new thread. Give as much information as you have, christian names, dates of birth, areas etc.

Christine, I'm sorry but I don't see how can have a hope of finding Cyril if you don't know his surname and he is not named on any of the children's birth certificate. I'll assume you have your grandad's BC and that Cyril isn't named as the father.

Sam x

Christine,

Have you actually checked the birth enteries for your grandfather and his sisters as sometimes the surname is incorporated into the first name. For example John S Marsden for instance could be John Smith Marsden indicating that the father could well have been called Smith.

Sometimes, the births are registered twice in the name she had and in the name of the other fellow.

If you gave one of us something to go on we could check for you. If the people are not deceased please send a private message

bW

Jane

yeah i thought so will keep trying have a few bits of info but not much i only know he died in halifax in 45 or 46 and we think his surmane was mansley but i have checked for this my grandad didn't find out untill after cyril was dead

Hi Christine,

I have found it!!

1st quarter 1947 Cyril Mansley Halifax Aged 49 2b 833

Using this info you can now order a copy of the death certificate from www.gro.gov.uk

BW

Jane

thankyou so much that has been a great help i will do that

Is this his birth?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Cyril Mansley
Name: Cyril Mansley
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Halifax
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9a
Page: 418

And a marriage:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Cyril Mansley
Name: Cyril Mansley
Year of Registration: 1919
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's name: Ivy M Lawton
District: Halifax
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9a
Page: 1142

Mistranscribed. The census image reads "Mansley"

1901 England Census
about Cyril Mousley
Name: Cyril Mousley
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Walter
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Halifax, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Halifax
Ecclesiastical parish: Halifax St Paul
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 58
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie A Mousley 12
Arthur Mousley 2
Cyril Mousley 3
Ellen Mousley 32
Walter Mousley 32

i think it is as i have found him on the 1901 cencus with his age listed as three

i think it's the same parish that my granparents got married in aswell