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abraham lutzes b 1898 london married a annie helman in 1920 at mile end old town middlesex abrahams parents hyman lutzes b 1870 odessa russia married a jane ???? born 1870 odessa russia would love to know her maiden name
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A copy of Abraham's birth certificate will provide the answer you seek:

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
LUTZES Abraham Whitechapel 1c 295

There is a Army pension record for an Abraham Lutzes on Ancestry but his father is given as Mr L Lutzes. Do you have an address for Abraham from the marriage cert?

This Abraham seems to have used the alias Alfred Freeman.

i only found out about this family part today i know nothing only wat ive wrote i,ll check with abrahams grt grt grandaughter today sometime on gr

You may want to look at this also

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Rachel Lutzes Name: Rachel Lutzes
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Whitechapel
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 276 (click to see others on page)


Name: Rachel Lutzes
Spouse Surname: Horowitz
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1921
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 1c
Page Number: 714
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

ah right tree on Ancestry has Rachel and Abraham, and i see 'Jane' as mother...but I'm thinking a name change? Jane isn't very Russian.

Abraham Lutzer

England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1898 — Whitechapel, London
residence: Spitalfields, London, Middlesex, England

Jane Lutzer

England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1861 — Russia
residence: Spitalfields, London, Middlesex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Jane Lutzer
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 40
relationship to head of household: Wife
birthplace: Russia
record type: Household
registration district: Whitechapel
sub-district: Spitalfields
ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
civil parish: Spitalfields
county: Whitechapel, Spitalfields, Spitalfields, London, Middlesex

Lewis Lutzer

England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1861 — Russia
residence: Spitalfields, London, Middlesex, England



Jane Lutzer

England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1861 — Russia
residence: Spitalfields, London, Middlesex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Jane Lutzer
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 40
relationship to head of household: Wife
birthplace: Russia
record type: Household
registration district: Whitechapel
sub-district: Spitalfields
ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
civil parish: Spitalfields
county: Whitechapel, Spitalfields, Spitalfields, London, Middlesex


Samuel Lutzer

England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1883 — Russia
residence: Spitalfields, London, Middlesex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Samuel Lutzer
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 18
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Russia
record type: Household
registration district: Whitechapel
sub-district: Spitalfields
ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
civil parish: Spitalfields
county: Whitechapel, Spitalfields, Spitalfields, London, Middlesex


Joseph Lutzer

England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1885 — Whitechapel, London
residence: Spitalfields, London, Middlesex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Joseph Lutzer
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 16
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Whitechapel, London
record type: Household
registration district: Whitechapel
sub-district: Spitalfields
ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
civil parish: Spitalfields
county: Whitechapel, Spitalfields, Spitalfields, London, Middlesex


Annie Lutzer

England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1886 — Whitechapel, London
residence: Spitalfields, London, Middlesex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Annie Lutzer
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 15
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Whitechapel, London
record type: Household
registration district: Whitechapel
sub-district: Spitalfields
ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
civil parish: Spitalfields
county: Whitechapel, Spitalfields, Spitalfields, London, Middlesex


Leah Lutzer

England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1890 — St Georges In The East, London
residence: Spitalfields, London, Middlesex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Leah Lutzer
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 11
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: St Georges In The East, London
record type: Household
registration district: Whitechapel
sub-district: Spitalfields
ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
civil parish: Spitalfields
county: Whitechapel, Spitalfields, Spitalfields, London, Middlesex


Rachel Lutzer

England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1896 — Whitechapel, London
residence: Spitalfields, London, Middlesex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Rachel Lutzer
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 5
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Whitechapel, London
record type: Household
registration district: Whitechapel
sub-district: Spitalfields
ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
civil parish: Spitalfields
county: Whitechapel, Spitalfields, Spitalfields, London, Middlesex

1911

LUTZES, Hyman Levy Head Married
12 years M 50 1861 Cigarette Maker Russia Resident
LUTZES, Jane Wife Married
12 years F 33 1878 Russia Resident VIEW
LUTZES, Rachel Daughter Single F 15 1896 None London Spitalfields
LUTZES, Abraham Son M 13 1898 School London Spitalfields
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1458 Reference:
RG14PN1458 RG78PN51 RD18 SD1 ED6 SN57

Registration District:
Whitechapel Sub District:
Spitalfields Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Spitalfields

Address:
Charlotte de Rothschild Dwellings Thrawl Street Spitalfields E

Chris :)

(image says children born to present marriage, None)

this is that one, mistranscribed on Ancestry

about Alexander Lutzer Name: Alexander Lutzer
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Lewis Lutzer
Mother's Name: Jane Lutzer
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitechapel, London, England

Civil parish: Spitalfields
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Spitalfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
Lewis Lutzer 40
Jane Lutzer 40
Samuel Lutzer 18
Joseph Lutzer 16
Annie Lutzer 15
Leah Lutzer 11
Rachel Lutzer 5
Alexander Lutzer 3
Lolta Lutzer 71

Etta Lutzer

England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1830 — Russia
residence: Spitalfields, London, Middlesex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Etta Lutzer
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 71
relationship to head of household: Mother
birthplace: Russia
record type: Household
registration district: Whitechapel
sub-district: Spitalfields
ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
civil parish: Spitalfields
county: Whitechapel, Spitalfields, Spitalfields, London, Middlesex

The address given for Abraham in the pension record is 59 Rothschilds Buildings, Commercial St, London E1. There is a Mr Lutzes living there in 1911

wow great guns maggie will be pleased with the work done

Mistranscribed for Levy in 1891...looks possible Jane is second marriage?

This record has been added to your shoebox.
1891 England Census
about Leah Lutzer Name: Leah Lutzer
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Lucy Lutzer
Mother's Name: Sarah Lutzer
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitechapel, London, England

Civil parish: Holy Trinity Minories
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Minories
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Goodmans Fields
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Lucy Lutzer 30 LEVY Cigarette maker
Sarah Lutzer 29
Samuel Lutzer 9
Joseph Lutzer 7
Annie Lutzer 6
Batch Lutzer 4
Leah Lutzer 2

Nope no death for a Sarah Lutzer/Lutzes...so maybe Sarah and Jane are same lady.

In 1901 all children except Samuel were born in London, all Whitechapel except Sarah who was born St Georges in the East. Samuel born Russian.

Abraham's Pension record shows he was awarded the Military Medal and must have lied about his age as he joined in 1915, giving his age as 20.

likely marriages for Samuel, Joseph and Annie

Possible 2nd or 3rd or late marriage

Hyman L Lusky ??
Year of Registration: 1914
[1914]
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's Surname: Sarah Goldstein
District: Willesden
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 642

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