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Blyth Northumberland records

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Barbara

Barbara Report 31 Jan 2011 23:15

I am searching for the birth details of a Thomas LULHAM (c 1797) {Lalham/Lutham/Latham/Sulham/Pulham/Lullum} who may have been born in Blyth, Northumberland.
I have found him and his family in 1841 living at Kingston, Surrey.
Name: Thomas Lulham
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Kingston Upon Thames
Hundred: Kingston (First Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lulham 45 (not born in Surrey)
Mary Lulham 40
John Lulham 20
William Lulham 16
Jane Lulham 10 (married 1847 to John LEONARD)
Maria Lulham 6 (servant in 1851 at Walthamstow, Essex)
Charles Lulham 8 (Married 1855 to Ruth RUSSELL)
Ann Lulham 2 (Married 1855 to George GOULTER)

I have only found 2 of his daughters in 1851 census and 3 daughters and a son in 1861.
I cannot find him or his wife and the rest of the children anywhere in 1851.
In 1861 I found a T. LATHAM 1797 gardener born Blyth Northumberland at the Kingston Workhouse which I think is him. I purchased the death cert for Thomas Lulham (Dec qtr 1863) and the details on it give the age as 67, gardener and he died at Kingston Workhouse so am sure they are one and the same.
I would love to be able to find the 1851 census to see where it states he was born.
I am trying to establish who his parents were so I can determine if he is one of my relatives. His possible siblings were born either Kingston or Kent and their father was a soldier in Surrey Militia and was a gunsmith/blacksmith/whitesmith.
Hope someone can help,
Cheers, Barbara (Australia)

Flick

Flick Report 31 Jan 2011 23:20

You won't find a birth record, as such............the best you can hope for is a baptism

Flick

Flick Report 31 Jan 2011 23:21

Which daughters have you found in 1851?

Where were Thomas's children born?

Flick

Flick Report 31 Jan 2011 23:25

For info only

Lulham, British Isles
Father: Thomas , Mother: Mary

1. JOHN THOMAS LULHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 SEP 1820 Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey, England

2. MARIA LULHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 01 NOV 1835 Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey, England

3. THOMAS WILLIAM LULHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 AUG 1823 Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey, England

4. WILLIAM LULHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 OCT 1825 Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey, England

5. ANNE LULHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 APR 1839 Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey, England



EVEIE

EVEIE Report 31 Jan 2011 23:27

1841 England Census
about Thomas Lulham Name: Thomas Lulham
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Kingston Upon Thames
Hundred: Kingston (First Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lulham 45
Mary Lulham 40
John Lulham 20
William Lulham 16
Jane Lulham 10
Maria Lulham 6
Charles Lulham 8
Ann Lulham 2



Barbara

Barbara Report 31 Jan 2011 23:31

I found Jane married to John Leonard and Maria, single, servant at Walthamstow, Essex.
His wife and children were all born at Kingston, Surrey.
It is his baptism details I am looking for to at least know who his father was and maybe his mother's name.

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 31 Jan 2011 23:33

1851 England Census
about M Lutham Name: M Lutham
[M Lulham]
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1797
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas Lutham
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Whitechapel
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriag
Disability: View image
Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Whitechapel Church
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lutham 50
M Lutham 54
H Lutham 17
E Lutham 14
J Pardon 26
E Boggis 18


Flick

Flick Report 31 Jan 2011 23:36

I see that in 1841, Thomas and son John were Ag Labs.

Barbara

Barbara Report 31 Jan 2011 23:37

Not them I am afraid...he is a tailor and found them again in 1861.

Barbara

Barbara Report 31 Jan 2011 23:38

That is another reason I am so keen to find them in 1851....just to get more details to compare with.

Lynski

Lynski Report 31 Jan 2011 23:43

Is this the 1841 census because this has James as the head? -

LULHAM, James M 45 1796
LULHAM, Mary F 40 1801 Surrey
LULHAM, John M 20 1821 Surrey
LULHAM, William M 16 1825 Surrey
LULHAM, Jane F 10 1831 Surrey
LULHAM, Maria F 6 1835 Surrey
LULHAM, Charles M 8 1833 Surrey
LULHAM, Ann F 2 1839 Surrey

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1075 Book/Folio:
2/28 Page:
18

Registration District:
Kingston Sub District:
Kingston Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Kingston upon Thames Municipal Borough:
Address:
Coombe Lane, Kingston Upon Thames County:
Surrey

Barbara

Barbara Report 31 Jan 2011 23:49

Hi Lyn, that is the same family but it has been transcribed incorrectly which for a long time caused even more confusion. When you see the handwritten copy it is definitely Thomas

Lynski

Lynski Report 31 Jan 2011 23:51

Found this on familysearch.org?

John Thomas Lulham

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Surrey, England
parents: Thomas Lulham, Jane

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: John Thomas Lulham
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 08 Jun 1796
baptism/christening place: KINGSTON UPON THAMES,SURREY,ENGLAND
father's name: Thomas Lulham
mother's name: Jane
indexing project (batch) number: C01549-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 991685

Lynski

Lynski Report 31 Jan 2011 23:53

Thanks, Barbara.
I am at work at the moment so I can't look at the original!

Barbara

Barbara Report 31 Jan 2011 23:59

Lynne,
I have wondered about that christening also????
I haven't yet found any other details for him so haven't totally eliminated him as being the one I want.

Barbara

Barbara Report 1 Feb 2011 02:19


I just found a Mary Culham born 1795 in Holborn, Middlesex , married, a servant in 1861. Maybe the wife of Thomas in the Workhouse. There is a death for Mary Ann Lulham Mar qtr 1870 age 76.
I will now see if I can find her in 1851.

Barbara

Barbara Report 1 Feb 2011 23:25

No luck with Mary in 1851 either!!!
This family just seems to have disappeared.