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Can anyone please help me find in the 41 and 51 census John Leech, joiner, born Ashton, Manchester c1817.
Married Mary Ann Robinson in 1841.

Thanks in advance.

there appears to be a a john leich with wife mary and 3 children henry, ann and samuel on the 1851 census, john is a joiner but born in leck, could this be the one

the same spelling in 1841. living at the household of john mitchell, also a joiner, in newcastle on tyne.

Thanks Virginia but I don't think that's him, he was definitely born Manchester, married Manchester and in 61 and 71 census still lived in Manchester (Salford). I'll keep on looking for them in 41, 51 x

ps. in 51 they should have a child James Leech born Salford Manchester in 1847, and Alice Leech born 1849.

ok, i'll give it another go later

Thank you, I still can't find them. x

Is this them on 1861?

1861 England Census
about James Leech
Name: James Leech
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
John Leech 41 Joiner.
Mary A Leech 42
James Leech 14
Alice Leech 12
Mary Leech 10
Sarah A Leech 8
George Leech 4
Emma Leech 1




Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2915; Folio: 63; Page: 7; GSU roll: 543049.

Source Information:


Dea x

Yes Dea that's them in 61, however you have another family member that I don't have, Emma. On GR the Leech family run off the bottom of the page and I don't know how to get to the next page of the census. Thanks for that.
I now need to find them in 51,41 but still no joy, thanks for your help.

Person: LEECH, Alice
Address: 10, Mt Pleasant Street, Manchester




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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Synthesised
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LEECH, John Head Married M 31 1820 Machine Maker J'yman
Ashton U Lyne
Lancashire VIEW
LEECH, Mary Ann Wife Married F 32 1819
Salford
Lancashire VIEW
LEECH, John Son M 9 1842
Salford
Lancashire VIEW
LEECH, William Hy Son M 7 1844
Salford
Lancashire VIEW
LEECH, James Son M 4 1847
Salford
Lancashire VIEW
LEECH, Alice Dau F 2 1849
Salford
Lancashire VIEW
LEECH, Mary Elizth Dau F 0 (2M) 1851
Salford
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
2223 Folio:
0 Page:
0

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Greengate EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Manchester Municipal Borough:
Address:
10, Mt Pleasant Street, Manchester County:
Lancashire



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Do you think this is them in 1851.

Sal

This looks like it may well be them on 1851 but I am off line now so will check again in the morning:

LEECH, John Head Married M 31 1820 Machine Maker J'yman Ashton U Lyne Lancashire
LEECH, Mary Ann Wife Married F 32 1819 Salford Lancashire
LEECH, John Son M 9 1842 Salford
LEECH, William Hy Son M 7 1844 Salford
LEECH, James Son M 4 1847 Salford
LEECH, Alice Dau F 2 1849 Salford
LEECH, Mary Elizth Dau F 0 (2M) 1851 Salford

10, Mt Pleasant Street, Manchester

Dea x

SNAP Sally,- I was too busy cutting and pasting!!

Dea x

Hi, yes thank you that must be them, although for the life of me I can't find that record at all on GR, I've searched and searched, am I missing something?
Thanks again for the help x

Hi, I wondered if anyone had managed to find them in the 41 census?
I think GR is missing some info as I still cant find the 51 census info that others have kindly found for me.
Many thanks x

Hi,

I did have a look but couldn't see them on the 1841 census but did find that they had only married about a week before the census was taken.

Do you know the names of Mary Anns parents at all.

Sal

Don't worry - GR sends you to Ancestry and there are a lot of records missing from Ancestry on 1851 for this area - It is probably not on there!

Do you have the marriage cert for 1841?

The 1841 census was taken 6th June and they were married in April, May, June Quarter. I suspect they were not married at that time as I can find 2 possibles for John with his family.

Strangely, I cannot see Mary Ann at the moment.

I will keep looking.

Dea x

Hi Dea,

I looked on family search and it gives the date for the marriage as 1st June 1841 at Manchester Cathedral.

Sal

MARY ANN ROBINSON Pedigree
Female Family


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Event(s):
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Christening:
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Marriages:
Spouse: JOHN LEECH Family
Marriage: 01 JUN 1841 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England

Hi Sal, Dea, thanks for the marriage info, I really should get their marriage cert to give fathers details. I'll order one. The only info I have on mary is that she was born in Salford, Manchester, not a great deal of help I know. Thanks again for looking.

Thanks for the marriage info Sally - that means that they should be together.

I can only find one vaguely possible but we really need their fathers names from that cert to go any further.

Dea x

Hi, crikey 2 years on and still stuck. Can anyone help please?

As above, John Leech born c1818 married Mary Ann Robinson on 01 June 41, John's father is called Samuel Leech.
Now on the 41 census I can find a family with a samuel Leech, John Leech and several other children (although it doesn't specify relationships) in Ashton Under Lyne in Lancashire where John I know was born.
Now, if that is them in 41, in 51 I have John with Ann and their children, however when I search for samuels other children in 51 I find a few of them living together, no samuel (father) but with a John Leech, who cant be in two places at once. Does this make sense?

Please help if you can, my research skills arent that hot. Thanks x

What occupation of the father does it say on the marriage cert of John Leech?

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1841 census
Samuel Leech 52 Joiner
Ann Leech 45
John Leech Traveller 30
William Leech 12
Catherine 9
Nathanial 5

All living at Naylor Street Warrington-jl