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Hi trying to locate anyone who may have a connection from the UK to Australia the only thing i have is Samuel Lawford born 2-10-1867 & died abt 1919 Victoria married Emily Gertrude Baldwin abt 1894 at Clunes Ballarratt Victoria & had 4 children Oliver 1894 - Rupert 1896 - John 1908 & Alfred 1909... Samuel i think was sent to Australia as what i dont know as records dont show anything on him here so anyone who may have info that could help in tracking his parents or siblings would be great regards darren vic
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poss birth??
Births Dec 1867 (>99%)
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Lawford Samuel Brittain Wolverhampton 6b 511
Cass
EDIT
Sorry looks like that Samuel above died in 1868.
RE EDIT 11.15 AM
Didn't you read my edit, Victoria?? I did it straight after I posted. I know that 1867 birth died!!!!!
Cass
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can't be that birth as they died same year
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
Birth, Marriage & Death
PreviewName: Samuel B Lawford
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
District: Wolverhampton
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Volume: 6b
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this might be the one
Name: Samuel Lawford
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 259 (
Darren, I can't find a death or marriage for him in VIC , do you have his death/marriage certs, these will give lots of useful info on. What about birth certs of his children? I think they give "how long in colony"
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Any idea when he came to AUS
this is the only record so far I can find for outbound records 1890-1895
but this guy was already married
Name: Mr LAWFORD
Date of departure: 24 February 1890
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: Melbourne, Australia
Passenger destination: Melbourne, Australia
Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation:
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 2
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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Mrs LAWFORD Page 1 of 2 View transcript
Miss LAWFORD Page 1 of 2 View transcript
Infant LAWFORD Page 1 of 2 View transcript
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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
KAISER WILHELM II
Stormer
Australia
4412
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Hi Darren
Had a bit of a look at the indexes and I reckon I've 'cracked the case'! :-)
Samuel did not die in Victoria in 1919, but his wife did.
Surname: LAWFORD
Given Names: Emily Gerte
Event: D
Father: Baldwin Josh
Mother: Mary Elizth PHILLIPS
Age: 46
Death Place: Echuca
Year: 1919
Reg. Number: 6505
She was born in 1873 in Amhurst Vic, to Joseph BALDWIN & Mary Elizabeth PHILLIPS. Joseph & Mary married in Vic in 1864 (reg 2434).
I cannot find Samuel & Emily's marriage in Vic or NSW or Qld. Their 2 eldest chn were born in NSW. They had 6 sons.
1. Oliver b. 1894 Corowa NSW (reg 11266, as Ollie), m. Margaret MORRISON 1925/9783 [Vic], d. 1967/17316 Morrisons aged 72
2. Rupert Stanley b. 1896 Tocumwal NSW (reg 26170), m. Henrietta Maude McCANN 1922/3691 [Vic], d. 1956/24434 Yarr aged 60
3. Joseph Adrain b. 1898/16105 Barwon, d. 1916/5635 Echuca aged 18 [as Adrian Joseph]
4. Frederick Wm b. 1900/24088 Barwon, m. Cath Standlars RICE 1923 [Vic], d. 1974/5856 Echuca aged 73
5. John Stephen b. 1908/16603 Barwon, m. Elsie May RICKARD 1930, d. 1966/9797 Nathalia aged 57
6. Alfred b. 1909/24686 Barwon, d. 1924 Kingston aged 15
Samuel died in Mooroopna:
Surname: LAWFORD
Given Names: Samuel
Father: Lawford Fredk
Mother: Jane GIBBONS
Death Place: MPNA
Age: 72
Year: 1942
Reg Number: 25645
Event: D
Oliver and Rupert both enlisted in WWI, both on the same day (3 Mar 1916). Oliver was 21 and Rupert was 19. Both were labourers and both showed next of kin as father Samuel of “Barmah” via Picola, Vic. Oliver's application was rejected but Rupert served (he was wounded in action in Oct 1917). See www.naa.gov.au (RecordSearch).
Then I noticed a Frederick Wm SWAN who showed as born in Barmah Vic with next of kin Uncle Samuel LAWFORD (both parents decd). He also enlisted 3/3/1916. This led to me finding out that Fredk's mother Jane was a Lawford...and Samuel's sister. Her death:
Surname: SWAN
Given Names: Jane
Event: D
Father: Lawford Fred Wm
Mother: Jane GIBBONS
Age: 23
Death Place: UNKNOWN
Year: 1883
Reg Number: 309
There was an inquest (302); death place was Barmah and cause of death was 'congestion of lungs'.
Jane married Daniel Douglas McGregor SWAN in 1880 (reg 5265); shows her birthplace as London.
This led me to look for their immigration and lo and behold, here is the whole family as unassisted immigrants; Samuel was only 3 when they arrived:
LAWFORD FREDK 30 APR 1871 BENGAL B 302 002
LAWFORD JANE 8 APR 1871 BENGAL B 302 002
LAWFORD JANE 27 APR 1871 BENGAL B 302 002
LAWFORD SAMUEL 3 APR 1871 BENGAL B 302 002
LAWFORD WM 5 APR 1871 BENGAL B 302 002
Here is Samuel's mother Jane's death, quite young:
Surname: LAWFORD
Given Names: Jane
Event: D
Father: Gibbins Byham
Mother: Elizabeth
Age: 47
Death Place: YARRAWONGA
Year: 1888
Reg Number: 8141
There is a marriage in Islington, London in Jun qtr 1861 between Frederick LAWFORD and Jane GIBBINS (1b 302). Also a death for a Byham GIBBONS in Islington in Dec qtr 1859.
I reckon the birth in Islington that Victoria found is most probably the right one :-) Also a birth for Wm LAWFORD in Islington in Mar qtr 1865 and Jane LAWFORD in Islington Jun qtr 1862. They appear to have dodged the UK censuses quite neatly!!!
Samuel's brother Wm married in 1890 to Margaret Ann Bloodworth JOHNSON in Victoria (reg 5784, also shows Wm as b. London). All their children were born in Corowa district, NSW. William LAWFORD died in Mulwala, Corowa district aged 73, father Frederick (reg 21177). His wife Margaret died in Corowa district in 1936, father Alan (reg 19473).
By the by, Barmah, Picola, Echuca and Nathalia are all quite close together. Just out of interest, how are you connected to this family, Darren? Probably best to start by getting a death or marriage certificate of the direct link and going back from there...
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Could maybe find Byham & Elizabeth GIBBONS/GIBBINS in 1851 census?
I can't find Frederick LAWFORD's death (Samuel's father). He might show up in London in 1861 census tho (not sure if it would be before he married Jane)?
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thankyou cherilyn you gave more than i expected & this is my wife,s side & my father in law told us as much as he could remember he did mention a frederick but was unable to find anything so far but with the info you have given me it might make it a little bit easier we live nth east vic wangaratta so thankyou so much for that regards darren
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Hi Cherilyn i asked my father in law abt frederick but he cant tell any more other than he came from england is there any chance of tracking down any more info on him please regards darren ps he also told me that they lived in a shack in the barmah state forest as children & his mum sweep the dirt floor until it was like it had been waxed he left home at the age of 12 & hunted rabbits & sold them to the local butcher to live on what ever money he made.. regards darren im looking for a death & marriage for samuel.
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I assume you mean this Samuel, as stated previously I cannot find Samuel & Emily's marriage in Vic or NSW or Qld.
Samuel died in Mooroopna:
Surname: LAWFORD
Given Names: Samuel
Father: Lawford Fredk
Mother: Jane GIBBONS
Death Place: MPNA
Age: 72
Year: 1942
Reg Number: 25645
Event: D
You need an 1861 census lookup to try to track down Frederick. Sorry I can't help there but there are ppl offering them on here. Try the threads on the Records Office board. Your other option would be to order Fredk & Jane's marriage certificate from the GRO.
:-)
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Thanks Cherilyn i will look at the records office regards darren
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Hi Darren,
Did you find all you wanted on the Lawford and Swan families as I originally came from the Picola, Barmah, Nathalia district and have many local history books on the district if you wanted any look ups on this family I would be happy to help you out.
Regards,
Marianne.
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