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Hi

I am having trouble locating a death index record for a William Harrison keyte.

Birth Ref:
Reg: 1888
Quater; Apr / May / Jun
District: Edmonton

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank You

His baptism shows a DOB of 13th May 1888;

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about William Harrisson Keyte
Name: William Harrisson Keyte
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1891
Baptism Date: 27 Mar 1891
Father's name: Frederick Keyte
Mother's name: Eliza Keyte
Parish or Poor Law Union: Tottenham St Ann
Borough: Haringey

Dee x

I can't see anything too fit for a death for him

Have you found him on any census, do you think he could have emigrated,
Regards, Liz

Hi Liz,

he's with his parents Frederick and Eliza in 1891 and 1901... not with them in 1911 though and I can't see him using a free search.

Checked emigration records and couldn't see anything.


Dee x

This is the only death I could see that "MAY" fit;

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about William Keyte
Name: William Keyte
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 16
District: Orsett
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 312

Yes I did think that he may have emigrated. But as Dee has said she has checked emigration records and could not see anything.

The closest to age I can see to William Harrison Keyte born in England is a William Keyte ref: Apr / May / jun 1889, Droitwich

The only way that I will know if that is the right death reference is to order the certificate,

What do you think he was doing in Orsett, Essex at only 16?


Thank you very much guys.



X

here's his birth registration;

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about William Harrison Keyte
Name: William Harrison Keyte
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Edmonton
County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 359



It would be interesting to see the original transcript for the 1911 census........ it should state how many hildren Eliza had and how many had died. I think we could work out the deaths for any children as the family only lived in 2 places....... so maybe this would help??

If William did die in Orsett he may have gone there for work? The other children seemed to leave home at an early age, whether to work or marry so I wouldn't rule that death out, but like you say only the death cert will tell us for sure.



Dee x

For reference l90l - Liz

Person: KEYTE, William
Address: 21, Welbourne Road, Tottenham


census search results 1901 address search
KEYTE, Frederick Head Married M 41 1860 Plasterer
St Lukes
London VIEW
KEYTE, Eliza Wife Married F 38 1863
Islington
London VIEW
KEYTE, William Son M 12 1889
Tottenham
Middlesex VIEW
KEYTE, Lucy Daughter F 11 1890
Tottenham VIEW
KEYTE, Alfred Son M 9 1892
Tottenham VIEW
KEYTE, Harry Son M 1 1900
Tottenham VIEW


RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1248 Folio:
117 Page:
28

Registration District:
Edmonton Sub District:
Tottenham Enumeration District:
17 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity

Civil Parish:
Tottenham Municipal Borough:
Address:
21, Welbourne Road, Tottenham County:
Middlesex

Original states married 34 years, 16 children born, eight have died - Liz


1911 census - household transcription
Person: KEYTE, Fredrick
Address: 8 Canon Road Hornsey


KEYTE, Fredrick Head Married M 52 1859 Plasterer London Clerkenwell VIEW
KEYTE, Eliza Wife Married
34 years F 49 1862 London Islington VIEW
KEYTE, Voilet Daughter F 9 1902 Middlesex Tottenham VIEW
KEYTE, George Son M 6 1905 Middlesex Tottenham VIEW


RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7213 Reference:
RG14PN7213 RG78PN353 RD132 SD1 ED21 SN200

Registration District:
Edmonton Sub District:
Hornsey Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Hornsey

Address:
8 Canon Road Hornsey County:
Middlesex

Deaths Mar 1905 (>99%)
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KEYTE William 16 Orsett 4a 312

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?Possible death - from free bmd - Liz


Deaths Mar 1905 (>99%)

KEYTE William 16 Orsett 4a 312

I have details of Williams brother Alfred keyte born 1894 who was killed in action in the 1st world war. The MOD at the time stated in their paper work in 1919 that Alfred had to surving brother Harry a soldier serving somewhere in Ireland (I would love to know what became of him) and George. So based on that information William must have died between the 1901 census and the MOD report of 1919. So the William Keyte death of Mar 1905, age 16, Orsett, 4a, 312 is looking very likely.

If he did go to Orsett to work maybe his death was work related?

Where was Harry with regards to the 1911 Ccensus?

Could this be Harry? Liz


1911 census - household transcription
Person: KEYTE, Henry
Institution: North London Truant School,




KEYTE, Henry Inmate M 11 1900 School Industrial Middlese Wood Green VIEW


RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9748 Reference:
RG14PN9748 RG78PN514B RD188 SD10 ED74 SN1

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Walthamstow Enumeration District:
74 Parish:
Walthamstow

Address:
115 High St Walthamstow County:
Essex

Looks like Harry's marriage??

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Harry Keyte
Name: Harry Keyte >> Occupation; SOLDIER!!!
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Spouse Name: Eliza Elizabeth Still
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 12 Jul 1919
Parish: St Matthew, Bethnal Green
County: London
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Frederick Keyte >> Stoker
Spouse Father Name: Henry David Still


Dee x

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about George Keyte
Name: George Keyte
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1906
Baptism Date: 18 Sep 1906
Father's name: Frederick Keyte
Mother's name: Eliza Keyte
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hornsey St Mary
Borough: Haringey

DOB given as 10th March 1905


Most likely his death;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about George Keyte
Name: George Keyte
Death Registration Month/Year: 1954
Age at death (estimated): 49
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 583

And possible marriae;

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about George Keyte
Name: George Keyte
[Geroge Keyte]
Spouse Surname: Graham
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1932
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 2347
Find Spouse: Lilian A R Graham


Dee x

I have decided to order that death certificate for William keyte 1905. I will let you know what it reveals when I receive it, (In about a weeks time).

With regards to Harry's marriage certificate dated 12th July 1919 a few but's come to mind. The age states he was 24 born 1895, but the 1901 census gives his age a 1 born 1900 (a bit of a difference). Harry has also said that his father was a Frederick Keyte, a stoker? Again I find this a bit odd as any information regarding father Frederick Keyte has idicated him to be a builders plasterer all his working life. (what is a stoker?)

The 1919 MOD report regarding brother Alfred is dated April of that year so I guess it is possible that he could have been back in England of July that same year.

i also am unable to find a birth ref for a Harry keyte born about 1900. This makes me wonder if he was given the name Henry on his birth certificate as per the 1911 census KEYTE, Henry Inmate M 11 1900 School Industrial Middlese Wood Green.

Thank you

George

Hi George,

Well Henry would fit better than Harry;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1899 (>99%)
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Keyte Henry Edmonton 3a 401


However I cannot see a Harry or Henry Keyte with a father Frederick in 1901 other than your Keyte family.......... so maybe harry/Henry lied about his age???



Dee x

Hello Dee

Yes i did think that,that if he is the same Harry / Henry keyte that he lied about his age or maybe he just did not know how old he was? Looking at the marriage certificate it looks as thou he could just about write his own name lol.

So let me know if I am right in what you are saying that there was no other keyte famiy with a Harry / Henry born from 1900 with the fathers name Frederick. And if so the Harry Keyte found in the 1901 census can be the only Harry Keyte who married Eliza Still in July 1919.

This then makes me think when looking for army service details would have he have joined under the name Harry or Henry?

It seems that I will have to order a birth certificate for Keyte Henry Edmonton 3a 401 Birth Dec 1899.

Thank you!