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I am trying to find the parents of Denis Kearney. Denis was born 1853 Wifor Lancs. He was a Royal Marine. I have his marriage cert and he married Rosina Bartlett 1878 East Stonehouse, Plymouth. According to his marriage cert his father was John Kearney occupation Collier. I am looking for census records. The only one I can find is of Denis and Rosina in 1881. Hoping to find one with him and his parents
Jeanette

1881: - The original says Lancaster as place of birth, and the Wilfor could be anything.

Dennis Kearney
Age 28
Estimated Year of Birth 1853
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Royal Marine
Address 13, Admiralty South
District East Stonehouse, East Stonehouse
Parish East Stonehouse
Administrative County Devonshire
Birth Place Lancaster Wifor
Birth County

No sign of a birth on freebmd, but Kearney is an Irish name, maybe he lied for some reason?

Checking the 1851 census on FMP there is a Mary Carney (1833), hawker from Ireland or a Mary Carney, patient at hospital both at Lancaster. Not sure why but neither image will open on GR. Just trying to establish if the family were in Lancaster before his birth.

There is a birth on Freebmd for Dennis Carney Q4/1854 registered in Manchester, don't know if this could have any connection, but nothing else coming up. (quite often find place of birth is stated as Lancaster, but they mean Lancashire)

Have you found him on a later census to cross-check the details?

No only on the 1881. I think Dennis died 1893 Plymouth

I think that Dennis was an infant - the age is recorded as 0, but I can't find a corresponding birth registration.

Sorry, looked again - the birth was registered as Denis Q1/1993 in Plymouth

I have just found a Census 1871 for John Kearney B1832 Chorley Lancs. Occupation Coalminer. Also on this census is Mary Ann Daughter.On the marriage cert for Dennis one of the witnesses is Mary Ann Tucker. Amm I putting 2 and 2 together and comming up with 6

The family is in Chorley on the 1861 census as well, but still no sign of Dennis, just children James, Mary ann and a daughter I can't read the name of. You'll find them as Carney.

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Name: Dennis Carney
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Feb 1862
Baptism/Christening Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Carney
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00973-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 438180
Reference Number: yr 1861-1865 p 267
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Possible other children from Freebmd (think Dennis died though):

Births Mar 1884 (>99%)
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Kearney Denis E. Stonehouse 5b 303

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Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Kearny Rose E. Stonehouse 5b 294

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Births Dec 1888 (>99%)
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KEARNEY Annie E. Stonehouse 5b 289

National archives have a service record for Denis Kearney & the age ties is with the census:

ADM 157/332 Plymouth Division - Attestations and discharges. Described at item level

Record Summary
Scope and content Folios 130-136. Denis Kearney, born Sligo, Ireland.
Attestation papers to serve in the Royal Marines at Plymouth 1875 (when aged 22).
Discharged 1883 as objectionable.
Covering dates 1875-1883
Held by The National Archives, Kew

Legal status Public Record(s)
Language English

Not much luck tracing Dennis, what other information do you have on Rose/Rosina -she states born Devon on the 1881 census, but no trace of a birth - but there are 2 in Bristol. Who is her father, and where is she from on the marriage certificate?

Rosina was a widow when she married Denis. She was Born Rosina Knight 1855 Padstow Cornwall daughter of Edward Knight and Eliza Brown
I found a 1901 census with Rose Woods born Padstow with daughter Annie Kearney living in Plymouth but the dates for Rosina's birth dont tie up
Jeanette

Rose Woods? - ok, get where you're coming from, Rose Kearney married Matthew Woods Q2/1898 registered at Stoke Damerel, Devon.

The fact she had already been a widow before marrying Dennis may have helped in the first place, and knowing she had re-married again may have pointed to a death for Dennis rather than trying to find him on a census to get more information on him.

She only had 1 daughter with her on the 1901 census, so checking freebmd the other possible daughter Rose died Q3/1890 aged 5 (reg Plymouth), don't put too much reliance on the ages on census returns, they can be wldly out, but the Annie's birth I found was 1888 does match.

The only death I can find for Denis Kearney is reg Plymouth 1893, he is 39 - right sort of age. But I can't find any of them in 1891.

I think you need to check out the military record posted earlier, he appears to be the only Denis Kearney in the vicinity - and the census returns only record what they have been informed at the time.

Could this be a possibilty for 1891, image could be Kearney.

Name: Rose Heaney
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Denis Heaney
Gender: Female
Where born: Padstow, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Charles
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
Town: Plymouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England


Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: Charles
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Denis Heaney 38 born Ireland
Rose Heaney 30
Glory Heaney 10 born Ireland
Annie Heaney 5

Christine

Well spotted Christine - still couldn't find this on GR, they've got it transcribed as Hearney.
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On the original it could be Kearney, Denis is a labourer born Sligo, Ireland. The third person transcribed as Gloria is a male down as son - the name looks like George, aged 10, born Queenstown, Ireland.

Could this be Dennis on the 1871 census?

Dennis Tearney
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1850
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation [Looks like cotton operative on original]
Address Shaw Lane Private House
District Oldham, Crompton
Parish Crompton
Administrative County Lancashire
Birth Place Ireland [Original states Sligo]
Birth County Ireland
Other family:
Julia 50 head widow born Sligo
Catherine 18 dau born Sligo
Margaret 13 dau born Sligo
Catherine Fitgerald 2 granddaughter born Kent

Thankyou to everyone who have helped me with the Kearney Family and everyone who has helped me throughout the year with tracing other members of my family. I wish you all a very Happy Christmas
Jeanette

All the best for Christmas, & good luck with your research.
Mac

I have been following up some of the info above that several of you have given me. I now have Denis Kearneys military Records and now know he was born 1853 Ballymote, Sligo Ireland. I am trying to find his baptism. Ive looked at the census mentioned above but I am not sure if this is the correct one. Denis's date of Enlistment was 1875 Manchester. His occupation before enlistment was brickmaker. Ive looked on Ancestry but not been able to find any Irish baptism records. Any ideas please
Jeanette

have been following up some of the info above that several of you have given me. I now have Denis Kearneys military Records and now know he was born 1853 Ballymote, Sligo Ireland. I am trying to find his baptism. Ive looked at the census mentioned above but I am not sure if this is the correct one. Denis's date of Enlistment was 1875 Manchester. His occupation before enlistment was brickmaker. Ive looked on Ancestry but not been able to find any Irish baptism records. Any ideas please
Jeanette