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Yes a link..of sorts.
Jacob is living in Wednesbury in 1901 and where Harry says he was born on 1911 in the institution.

But as I said ,this may not be your Harry on 1911 anyway,but its looking better!

What was Harry job?would he have needed an apprenticeship for it?

Do you mean a link bewteen Jacob and the Harry in the institution - or have I read you thread wrong?

Just to add that there was a Jacob Jones in the right place for that Harry Jones born Wednesbury in 1901,and maybe he was born just after the census was taken?

And that Jacob does not seem to be on the 1911.

1901 England Census
about Jacob Jones
Name: Jacob Jones
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Millfield, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Wednesbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Moxley All Saints
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Wednesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 165
Household Members: Name Age
Jacob Jones 45
Elizabeth Jones 44
John Jones 12

If I get a result, I'll let you know.
Thanks again, you've been a star

The other side of the family has been relatively easy (ish) - I got back to 1770s before getting a bit stuck, so I've started looking at this side now

If it were me,which its not of course,I would start sending off for those births in 1901,Stourbridge and west brom ones.
True £7 a time but you may just be one of the lucky ones with a Jones!

I got my grandfathers WW2 army records a while ago,interesting reading.
He got 10 days in the glasshouse for stealing an apple to take home to my mum!

Thanks Rose, you've given me another thread to try

Right, work to do!
Any other tips? You've been such a help!

I have not found Harry with Jacob,I have just found a Harry in the right place,but orphaned, thats all.

He may well not be yours.

How did you get the link between Harry, Jacob and "institution" - I looked at this stuff seems like a 100 times, but not come up with that one!

The institution seems to be a school,wether that is boarding school or naughty boys school I dont know.....

Address:
Hagley Road Oldswinford Stourbridge

Ahhh ,its a hospital,sanitorium and orphanage.

Charitable orginasation for the Maintenance ,clothing education and apprenticing of male children.

www.freebmd.org.uk


Free and easy to search,but still being transcribed from about 1935 on.

would those births be through national archives?
Also, does the "9 m" bit mean, 9 years old and male?
How do I find out more about the "institution" bit?
I have service number for Harry, this is still classified, but my cousin is applying for his records.
Sorry about all the questions - everything else I've done so far has been fairly straight-forward!

One of these would be the one in the istituion on 1911 I think as west brom district covers Wednesbury.

Births Jun 1901 (>99%)
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Jones Harry W. Bromwich 6b 941
Jones Harry W. Bromwich 6b 916

The district W. Bromwich. is an alternative name for West Bromwich and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire and Worcestershire


I think they may both be the same person as a correction has been added on ,,,freebmd,,,to the entry.

Yes

www.1911census.co.uk

Or you can take out a sub with Find my Past...

I think your best bet is to apply for those birth that Rose put up using father Jacob as checking ref.

Was he in WW1?

If so have you looked at his records?

I am having no luck with finding a Harry with father Jacob on 1911,although there is one in the reg district of Stourbridge in an institution?

Institution JONES, Harry 1902 9 M Stourbridge Worcestershire

Born Wednesbury Staffs.

Got the Adeline stuff, just Harry and Jacob I've been struggling with

To look at those census records, do I go to 1911census - I found stuff on here before?

Well this at least is Adeline in 1911,and at the right address

BINGHAM, William Fredr Head Married M 27 1884 Galvanizer Pickler Bewdley Worcester VIEW
BINGHAM, Louisa Wife Married
5 years F 26 1885 Willenhall Staff VIEW
BINGHAM, Adeline Daughter F 5 1906 Hales Owen Worcester VIEW
BINGHAM, John Edward Son M 1 1910 Hales Owen Worcester VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17476 Reference:
RG14PN17476 RG78PN1068 RD373 SD1 ED16 SN141

Registration District:
Stourbridge Sub District:
Halesowen EnumerationDistrict:
16 Parish:
Hill

Address:
12 Coombs Wood Cottages Halesowen Worcs

Jones Harry Stourbridge 6c 200
Jones Harry Stourbridge 6c 162

both births June qtr 1901

?

On 5th Sept 1925, Harry was 24 years old. The address is listed as Coombs Wood, Halesowen. He married Adeline Bingham - she was 19 when they married

Getting better.
Still searching.
Do you know Harrys exact date of birth?
Would he be born before 31/3/1901?

On the marriage cert, he's listed as "General Labourer". Witnesses are listed as G Billingsley and R Watts - I don't know if these are related.
Not got much to go on really, have I!