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according to the 1891 census , sarah ward (married name) was born in bethnal green in 1854-5. In the 1871 census there is a sarah horton (maiden name) born in LAMBETH in 1854, could this be the same person. Thanking you in advance for any response.

Well of course it COULD be the same person - but it's probably really unlikely.

You need to find her marriage - or find her on a census with her husband and work back from there.

At the moment you're guessing ...

Jill

This MIGHT be the marriage, but honestly, without the birth cert of one of the children to confirm it, it's still guesswork ...

Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
HORTON Sarah Ann Poplar 1c 1117 Scan available - click to view
RAWLIN Martha Poplar 1c 1117 Scan available - click to view
Rawlin Martha Ann Poplar 1c 1117 Scan available - click to view
Reed James Edward Poplar 1c 1117 Scan available - click to view
WARD William Poplar 1c 1117 Scan available - click to view



How is she connected to you?

Jill

Hi Michael,

are you referring to the 1891 census with ALL those corrections to the names?


Dee x

This is the marriage that Jill posted;

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Sarah Ann Horton
Name: Sarah Ann Horton
Spouse Name: William Ward > occupation; Mariner
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 Aug 1878
Parish: Saint Mary Stratford Bow
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Horton > Occupation Warehouseman
Spouse Father Name: Joseph John Ward >>> occupation Naturalist??

Witnesses; Henry Lewis Wheatley & Daniel James Sutton



Dee x

i thought that as boundaries change it might mean that either of them may be incorrectly named ( if that makes sense!). Its just that there is no other sarah horton on the 1871 census listed as born anywhere near bethnal green.

mrs Grumpy

that is the correct marraige . they were married on 12/08/1878. she was my great great grandmother

If that marriage is correct, they were both living in Bow when they married... maybe??

1871 England Census
about Sarah Harton
Name: Sarah Harton
[Sarah Horton]
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Mary Stratford Le Bow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Bow
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 54
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
John Harton 37 >> Occupation; Carrier
Sarah Harton 39
Sarah Harton 16
Annie Harton 14
Catherine Harton 11
Eliza Harton 8
Amelia Harton 3
John Harton 2 months


Dee x

Oh Michael - why didn't you give her maiden name in your original post? I thought you didn't know her maiden name and was therefore guessing at who she might be!!!

Jill

\the same family in 1861;

1861 England Census
about Sarah Horton
Name: Sarah Horton
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Midd, Bethnal Green

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Bethnal Green <<<<<<<<!!!!!
Sub-registration district: Green
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 158
Household Members: Name Age
John Horton 27
Sarah Horton 29
Sarah Horton 6
Anna Horton 4
Katherine Horton 2


Dee x

poss?

1871 England Census about John Harton
Name: John Harton
[John Horton]
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Bow, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Mary Stratford Le Bow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Bow
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 54
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
John Harton 37
Sarah Harton 39
Sarah Harton 16
Annie Harton 14
Catherine Harton 11
Eliza Harton 8
Amelia Harton 3
John Harton 2 months
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batmans daughter

the copy of the 1891 census i have hasnt got any corrections of names. it says

sarah a ward wife 36 london, bethnal green
maud a ward dau 9 london, bow
john h ward son 6 london , bow
amelia c ward dau 1 london, bow

Michael..... that's why it's important to say everything you know. There was no mention of a middle intial "A" in your post so I came across this;

1891 England Census
about Sarah Smith
Name: Sarah Smith
[Sarah Ward]
[Sarah Clark]
[Sarah Kirby]
[Sarah Hodges]
[Sarah Marler]
[Sarah Reynolds]
[Sarah Hunt]
[Sarah Turner]
[Sarah Saunders]
[Sarah Golledge]
[Sarah Blackburn]
[Sarah Bass]
[Sarah Hopkins]
[Sarah Gilchrist]
[Sarah Mackey]
[Sarah East]
[Sarah Giddings]
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Alfred
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillips
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page



That is just crazy!!! What are folk up to on Anc*stry!!!


Dee x

sorry Jill

I put the comments in brackets so i didnt confuse people with regard to the different surnames. I can only apologise if this was wrong

AND it was in WALES!!!""

1891 Wales Census
about Sarah A Ward
Name: Sarah A Ward
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

Civil parish: Canton
Ecclesiastical parish: Canton
Town: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 44a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah A Ward 36
Maud A Ward 9
John H Ward 6
Amelia C Ward 1

No - don't worry Michael - it was just a bit frustrating. It does help to have the info first though ...

Jill

i honestly was expecting all the help and assistance ( which i am most grateful for). I was expecting a yes or no answer to my original question, which is why i didnt feel it necessary to divulge all the information i had. In hindsight, i shouldnt expect people to make assumptions/ judgements without knowing ALL the facts. Another lesson learned (or is it learnt?)
Thank you for everything

Yes, but one of the things you will notice on the help boards is that given the tiniest, minutest clue - we are off - like a pack of hounds after a fox! Because we all love the thrill of the chase!!

Jill

I will bear in mind everything you have told me for the next time I require assistance . Thank you