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Katherine Harper b 1853 Fressingfield, Suffolk

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Janet

Janet Report 15 Sep 2010 22:21

Please can anyone help me. Katherine is my greatgrandmother and I have her birth as 1853 Fresssing field Suffolk. I know from her marriage certificate that he father was Robert Harper also from Fressingfield. Katherine married James Brown b 1850 at Mendham, Suffolk. Their youngest son Herbert b 1902 in Leeds Yorkshire was my grandfather.
Can anyone help me with her parents, grandparens of siblings Janet

Andrew

Andrew Report 15 Sep 2010 22:38

Possible?? Age somewhat out. What was Roberts occupation from marriage cert?


1871 England Census
about Robert Harper Name: Robert Harper
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Amy Harper
Gender: Male
Where born: Fressingfield, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Wortwell
Town: Wortwell
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Depwade
Sub-registration district: Harleston
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Harper 39 Ag Lab.
Amy Harper 35
Robert Kemp 45
Maria Harper 12
>>>Katherine Harper 10
John Harper 8
Susan Harper 7
Emma Harper 5
Rebecca Harper 3
Ellen Harper 2 Months


Andy


KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 15 Sep 2010 22:39

This looks like the family in the 1871 census:-


Name: Katherine Harper
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Harper
Mother's Name: Amy Harper
Gender: Female
Where born: Fressingfield, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Wortwell
Town: Wortwell
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Depwade
Sub-registration district: Harleston
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age

Robert Harper 39
Amy Harper 35
Robert Kemp 45
Maria Harper 12
Katherine Harper 10
John Harper 8
Susan Harper 7
Emma Harper 5
Rebecca Harper 3
Ellen Harper 2 Months

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1833; Folio: 135; Page: 8; GSU roll: 830846.

Kath. x

Katie

Katie Report 15 Sep 2010 22:40

Is this the family in 1911? If so Catherine's DOB and place of birth are different. She had been married 34 years and had 10 children in all [ 2 dead by 1911].

BROWN, Catholine Head Widow F 55 1856 Suffolk Yoxford VIEW
BROWN, Robert Son Single M 21 1890 Assistant Shop Suffolk Yoxford VIEW
BROWN, Albert Son Single M 17 1894 Farm Labourer Norfolk Alston VIEW
BROWN, James Son Single M 14 1897 Clerk Norfolk Alston VIEW
BROWN, Annie Daughter Single F 11 1900 School Norfolk Alston VIEW
BROWN, Herbert Son Single M 8 1903 Leeds Yorks VIEW
WILLIAMSON, Arthur Boarder Single M 22 1889 Collier Hewer Leeds Yorks VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27153 Reference:
RG14PN27153 RG78PN1551 RD501 SD1 ED36 SN313

Registration District:
Hunslet Sub District:
Hunslet Enumeration District:
36 Parish:
Hunslet

Address:
9 Colwyn Terrace Dewsbury Road Leeds County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Sep 2010 22:41

1881 - connected?


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Husband's Name
Benjamin HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NN9) Pedigree

Born: 1734 Place: Weybread, Norfolk, England
Married: 11 Oct 1758 Place: Weybread, Suffolk, England

Father:
Mother:

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Wife's Name
Mary HOWS (AFN:1PLB-NPH) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1737 Place: , , England
Married: 11 Oct 1758 Place: Weybread, Suffolk, England

Father:
Mother:

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Children

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1. Sex Name
M Robert HARPER (AFN:RPPK-38) Pedigree

Born: 1780 Place: , Weybread, Suffolk, England
Died: Place: , Bungay, Norfolk, England

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2. Sex Name
M James HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NS4) Pedigree

Born: 1770 Place: Weybread, Norfork, England
Died: 1830 Place:

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3. Sex Name
M Edward HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NTB) Pedigree

Born: 1772 Place: Weybread, Norfork, England
Died: 1830 Place:

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4. Sex Name
M Benjamin HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NVJ) Pedigree

Born: 1774 Place: Weybread, Norfork, England
Died: 1839 Place:

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5. Sex Name
F Dinah HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NQP) Pedigree

Born: 1766 Place: Weybread, Norfolk, England

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6. Sex Name
M John HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NRW) Pedigree

Born: 1768 Place: Weybread, Norfolk, England

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7. Sex Name
F Elizabeth HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NWQ) Pedigree

Born: 1778 Place: Weybread, Norfolk, England

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Sep 2010 22:45

Did she marry as Kate?

1881
Name: Kate Brown
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James Brown
Gender: Female
Where born: Fressingfield, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Yoxford
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address: Little Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Blything
Sub-registration district: Westleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Brown 29
Kate Brown 25
Agness Brown 3
Ellen Brown 1



Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
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BROWN James Hoxne 4a 875
HARPER Kate Hoxne 4a 875
JEX Edward Hoxne 4a 875
LINDER Anne Hoxne 4a 875

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 15 Sep 2010 22:48

In the 1861 census Katherine's mother is named as Anna rather than Amy but I think it is the same person as the birthplace is the same.


Name: Robert Harper
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Anna Harper
Gender: Male
Where born: Fressingfield, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Fressingfield
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Hoxne
Sub-registration district: Stradbroke
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age

Robert Harper 30
Anna Harper 28
Robert Harper 6
Maria Harper 4
Catherine Harper 1
John Harper 1 MO

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1151; Folio: 33; Page: 8; GSU roll: 542764.

Kath. x

Katie

Katie Report 15 Sep 2010 22:53

Could this be her father in 1841?

HARPER, Charles M 32 1809 Suffolk VIEW
HARPER, Lydia F 34 1807 VIEW
HARPER, Hannah F 6 1835 Suffolk VIEW
HARPER, Robert M 4 1837 Suffolk VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1025 Book/Folio:
5 Page:
3

Registration District:
Hoxne Sub District:
Stradbroke Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Fressingfield Municipal Borough:
Address:
Church Street, Fressingfield County:
Suffolk

Janet

Janet Report 15 Sep 2010 22:55

Hi Andy,
Robert's ocupation on marriage certificate is Labourer and she was Kate on marriage certificate in 1876 also her age was down as 21
Janet

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Sep 2010 22:55

1881

Alfred HARPER Head W Male 62 Fressingfield, Suffolk, England Ag Lab
Eliza HARPER Daur U Female 44 Fressingfield, Suffolk, England
Rebecca HARPER Daur U Female 34 Fressingfield, Suffolk, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Stradbroke Rd
Census Place Fressingfield, Suffolk, England
Family History Library Film 1341449
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1856 / 26
Page Number 3

Katie

Katie Report 15 Sep 2010 22:55

Possible for her parents marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1856 (>99%)
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Harper Robert Hoxne 4a 1185
Kemp Amy Hoxne 4a 1185


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Sep 2010 22:56

Husband's Name
Charles HARPER (AFN:1NFN-Z4B) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1734 Place:
Married: 8 Nov 1759 Place:

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Wife's Name
Ann DANIELS (AFN:1NFN-Z5J) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1738 Place:
Married: 8 Nov 1759 Place:

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Children

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1. Sex Name
F Rebecca HARPER (AFN:1NFN-Z6Q) Pedigree

Born: 11 May 1760 Place: Fressingfield, Suffolk, , England
Died: Dead Place:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Sep 2010 22:57

Husband's Name
Thomas DAVY (AFN:1NFN-Z34) Pedigree

Born: 24 Jan 1754 Place: Fressingfield, Suffolk, , England
Married: 3 Jun 1783 Place: Of, Suffolk, England

Father: John DAVY (AFN:1NFN-Z1P) Family
Mother: Ruth (AFN:1NFN-Z2W)

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Wife's Name
Rebecca HARPER (AFN:1NFN-Z6Q) Pedigree

Born: 11 May 1760 Place: Fressingfield, Suffolk, , England
Died: Dead Place:
Married: 3 Jun 1783 Place: Of, Suffolk, England

Father: Charles HARPER (AFN:1NFN-Z4B) Family
Mother: Ann DANIELS (AFN:1NFN-Z5J)

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Children

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1. Sex Name
F Sarah DAVY (AFN:9ZNM-JQ) Pedigree

Born: 23 Apr 1786 Place: Fressingfield, Suffolk, , England
Christened: 23 Apr 1786 Place: Fressingfield, Suffolk, England
Died: 13 Jun 1831 Place: Wingfield, Suffolk, , England

Janet

Janet Report 15 Sep 2010 22:57

Hi Katie,
Not sure will have to check my information and get back to you

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Sep 2010 22:58

Husband's Name
Charles HARPER (AFN:1NFN-Z4B) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1734 Place:
Married: 8 Nov 1759 Place:
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Wife's Name
Ann DANIELS (AFN:1NFN-Z5J) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1738 Place:
Married: 8 Nov 1759 Place:
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Children

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1. Sex Name
F Rebecca HARPER (AFN:1NFN-Z6Q) Pedigree

Born: 11 May 1760 Place: Fressingfield, Suffolk, , England
Died: Dead Place:

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 15 Sep 2010 22:58

You will have to be careful about Robert's parents as on the 1851 census there are three Robert Harpers born Fressingfield. One a bit earlier in c.1828 but the other two are born only a year apart. The one with parent's Charles and Lydia and the other with a mother called Maria.

Kath. x

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Sep 2010 22:59

Rebecca Harper Compact Disc #126 Pin #1558872 Pedigree
Sex: F

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Event(s)
Birth: 1737

Suffolk England
Death: 26 Sep 1815

Fressingfield Suffolk England

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: John Larter Disc #126 Pin #1558896
Marriage: 12 Sep 1759
Weybread Suffolk England

Janet

Janet Report 15 Sep 2010 23:00

Hi,
Yes she did marry as Kate, I have the marriage certificate

Janet

Janet Report 21 Sep 2010 22:22

Hi Katie,
Yes this is my Katherine.
Janet