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15 Sep 2010 22:21 |
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Please can anyone help me. Katherine is my greatgrandmother and I have her birth as 1853 Fresssing field Suffolk. I know from her marriage certificate that he father was Robert Harper also from Fressingfield. Katherine married James Brown b 1850 at Mendham, Suffolk. Their youngest son Herbert b 1902 in Leeds Yorkshire was my grandfather. Can anyone help me with her parents, grandparens of siblings Janet
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Andrew
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15 Sep 2010 22:38 |
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Possible?? Age somewhat out. What was Roberts occupation from marriage cert?
1871 England Census about Robert Harper Name: Robert Harper Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Amy Harper Gender: Male Where born: Fressingfield, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Wortwell Town: Wortwell County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Depwade Sub-registration district: Harleston ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 48 Household Members: Name Age Robert Harper 39 Ag Lab. Amy Harper 35 Robert Kemp 45 Maria Harper 12 >>>Katherine Harper 10 John Harper 8 Susan Harper 7 Emma Harper 5 Rebecca Harper 3 Ellen Harper 2 Months
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KathleenBell
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15 Sep 2010 22:39 |
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This looks like the family in the 1871 census:-
Name: Katherine Harper Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Harper Mother's Name: Amy Harper Gender: Female Where born: Fressingfield, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Wortwell Town: Wortwell County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Depwade Sub-registration district: Harleston ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 48 Household Members: Name Age
Robert Harper 39 Amy Harper 35 Robert Kemp 45 Maria Harper 12 Katherine Harper 10 John Harper 8 Susan Harper 7 Emma Harper 5 Rebecca Harper 3 Ellen Harper 2 Months
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1833; Folio: 135; Page: 8; GSU roll: 830846.
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Katie
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15 Sep 2010 22:40 |
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Is this the family in 1911? If so Catherine's DOB and place of birth are different. She had been married 34 years and had 10 children in all [ 2 dead by 1911].
BROWN, Catholine Head Widow F 55 1856 Suffolk Yoxford VIEW BROWN, Robert Son Single M 21 1890 Assistant Shop Suffolk Yoxford VIEW BROWN, Albert Son Single M 17 1894 Farm Labourer Norfolk Alston VIEW BROWN, James Son Single M 14 1897 Clerk Norfolk Alston VIEW BROWN, Annie Daughter Single F 11 1900 School Norfolk Alston VIEW BROWN, Herbert Son Single M 8 1903 Leeds Yorks VIEW WILLIAMSON, Arthur Boarder Single M 22 1889 Collier Hewer Leeds Yorks VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 27153 Reference: RG14PN27153 RG78PN1551 RD501 SD1 ED36 SN313 Registration District: Hunslet Sub District: Hunslet Enumeration District: 36 Parish: Hunslet Address: 9 Colwyn Terrace Dewsbury Road Leeds County: Yorkshire (West riding)
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15 Sep 2010 22:41 |
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1881 - connected?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Husband's Name Benjamin HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NN9) Pedigree Born: 1734 Place: Weybread, Norfolk, England Married: 11 Oct 1758 Place: Weybread, Suffolk, England Father: Mother:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Mary HOWS (AFN:1PLB-NPH) Pedigree Born: Abt. 1737 Place: , , England Married: 11 Oct 1758 Place: Weybread, Suffolk, England Father: Mother:
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name M Robert HARPER (AFN:RPPK-38) Pedigree Born: 1780 Place: , Weybread, Suffolk, England Died: Place: , Bungay, Norfolk, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Sex Name M James HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NS4) Pedigree Born: 1770 Place: Weybread, Norfork, England Died: 1830 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Sex Name M Edward HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NTB) Pedigree Born: 1772 Place: Weybread, Norfork, England Died: 1830 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Sex Name M Benjamin HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NVJ) Pedigree Born: 1774 Place: Weybread, Norfork, England Died: 1839 Place:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Sex Name F Dinah HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NQP) Pedigree Born: 1766 Place: Weybread, Norfolk, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Sex Name M John HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NRW) Pedigree Born: 1768 Place: Weybread, Norfolk, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Sex Name F Elizabeth HARPER (AFN:1PLB-NWQ) Pedigree Born: 1778 Place: Weybread, Norfolk, England
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GlitterBaby
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15 Sep 2010 22:45 |
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Did she marry as Kate?
1881 Name: Kate Brown Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: James Brown Gender: Female Where born: Fressingfield, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Yoxford County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address: Little Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Blything Sub-registration district: Westleton ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Brown 29 Kate Brown 25 Agness Brown 3 Ellen Brown 1
Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BROWN James Hoxne 4a 875 HARPER Kate Hoxne 4a 875 JEX Edward Hoxne 4a 875 LINDER Anne Hoxne 4a 875
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KathleenBell
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15 Sep 2010 22:48 |
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In the 1861 census Katherine's mother is named as Anna rather than Amy but I think it is the same person as the birthplace is the same.
Name: Robert Harper Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Anna Harper Gender: Male Where born: Fressingfield, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Fressingfield County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image Registration district: Hoxne Sub-registration district: Stradbroke ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 39 Household Members: Name Age
Robert Harper 30 Anna Harper 28 Robert Harper 6 Maria Harper 4 Catherine Harper 1 John Harper 1 MO
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1151; Folio: 33; Page: 8; GSU roll: 542764.
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Katie
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15 Sep 2010 22:53 |
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Could this be her father in 1841?
HARPER, Charles M 32 1809 Suffolk VIEW HARPER, Lydia F 34 1807 VIEW HARPER, Hannah F 6 1835 Suffolk VIEW HARPER, Robert M 4 1837 Suffolk VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: HO107 Piece: 1025 Book/Folio: 5 Page: 3 Registration District: Hoxne Sub District: Stradbroke Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Fressingfield Municipal Borough: Address: Church Street, Fressingfield County: Suffolk
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Janet
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15 Sep 2010 22:55 |
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Hi Andy, Robert's ocupation on marriage certificate is Labourer and she was Kate on marriage certificate in 1876 also her age was down as 21 Janet
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AnnCardiff
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15 Sep 2010 22:55 |
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1881
Alfred HARPER Head W Male 62 Fressingfield, Suffolk, England Ag Lab Eliza HARPER Daur U Female 44 Fressingfield, Suffolk, England Rebecca HARPER Daur U Female 34 Fressingfield, Suffolk, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Stradbroke Rd Census Place Fressingfield, Suffolk, England Family History Library Film 1341449 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1856 / 26 Page Number 3
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Katie
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15 Sep 2010 22:55 |
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Possible for her parents marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1856 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harper Robert Hoxne 4a 1185 Kemp Amy Hoxne 4a 1185
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AnnCardiff
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15 Sep 2010 22:56 |
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Husband's Name Charles HARPER (AFN:1NFN-Z4B) Pedigree Born: Abt. 1734 Place: Married: 8 Nov 1759 Place: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Ann DANIELS (AFN:1NFN-Z5J) Pedigree Born: Abt. 1738 Place: Married: 8 Nov 1759 Place: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Children
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name F Rebecca HARPER (AFN:1NFN-Z6Q) Pedigree Born: 11 May 1760 Place: Fressingfield, Suffolk, , England Died: Dead Place:
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AnnCardiff
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15 Sep 2010 22:57 |
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Husband's Name Thomas DAVY (AFN:1NFN-Z34) Pedigree Born: 24 Jan 1754 Place: Fressingfield, Suffolk, , England Married: 3 Jun 1783 Place: Of, Suffolk, England Father: John DAVY (AFN:1NFN-Z1P) Family Mother: Ruth (AFN:1NFN-Z2W)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Rebecca HARPER (AFN:1NFN-Z6Q) Pedigree Born: 11 May 1760 Place: Fressingfield, Suffolk, , England Died: Dead Place: Married: 3 Jun 1783 Place: Of, Suffolk, England Father: Charles HARPER (AFN:1NFN-Z4B) Family Mother: Ann DANIELS (AFN:1NFN-Z5J)
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name F Sarah DAVY (AFN:9ZNM-JQ) Pedigree Born: 23 Apr 1786 Place: Fressingfield, Suffolk, , England Christened: 23 Apr 1786 Place: Fressingfield, Suffolk, England Died: 13 Jun 1831 Place: Wingfield, Suffolk, , England
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Janet
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15 Sep 2010 22:57 |
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Hi Katie, Not sure will have to check my information and get back to you
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AnnCardiff
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15 Sep 2010 22:58 |
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Husband's Name Charles HARPER (AFN:1NFN-Z4B) Pedigree Born: Abt. 1734 Place: Married: 8 Nov 1759 Place: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Ann DANIELS (AFN:1NFN-Z5J) Pedigree Born: Abt. 1738 Place: Married: 8 Nov 1759 Place: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Children
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name F Rebecca HARPER (AFN:1NFN-Z6Q) Pedigree Born: 11 May 1760 Place: Fressingfield, Suffolk, , England Died: Dead Place:
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KathleenBell
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15 Sep 2010 22:58 |
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You will have to be careful about Robert's parents as on the 1851 census there are three Robert Harpers born Fressingfield. One a bit earlier in c.1828 but the other two are born only a year apart. The one with parent's Charles and Lydia and the other with a mother called Maria.
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AnnCardiff
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15 Sep 2010 22:59 |
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Rebecca Harper Compact Disc #126 Pin #1558872 Pedigree Sex: F
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s) Birth: 1737 Suffolk England Death: 26 Sep 1815 Fressingfield Suffolk England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage(s) Spouse: John Larter Disc #126 Pin #1558896 Marriage: 12 Sep 1759 Weybread Suffolk England
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Janet
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15 Sep 2010 23:00 |
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Hi, Yes she did marry as Kate, I have the marriage certificate
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Janet
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21 Sep 2010 22:22 |
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Hi Katie, Yes this is my Katherine. Janet
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