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ELEANOR - Does anyone have any information on a Eleanor Halliday - maiden name Brierley, born 1878 Rochdale, married Arthur Halliday also from Rochdale - then possible married a Mr Hough from Coppull, Lancashire

1881 - possible connection

Simeon Lord BRIERLEY Head M Male 44 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Designer (Artzn)
Emily BRIERLEY Wife M Female 42 Dewsbury, York, England
John Thos BRIERLEY Son U Male 20 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Scholar
Ellen A. BRIERLEY Dau Female 19 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Penciller Of Calico Prints (C P)
Charles W. BRIERLEY Son Male 4 Chorley, Lancashire, England
Alfred HOWARTH Boarder U Male 22 Chorley, Lancashire, England Clerk


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Source Information:
Dwelling 105 Moor Rd
Census Place Chorley, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1342010
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4220 / 121
Page Number 41

1879 dob here

Joseph BRIERLEY Head M Male 39 Oldham, Lancashire, England Wool Minder
Hannah BRIERLEY Wife M Female 36 Oldham, Lancashire, England
Charles BRIERLEY Son U Male 12 Oldham, Lancashire, England Piecer
Ann Mills BRIERLEY Daur U Female 9 Oldham, Lancashire, England Scholar
John BRIERLEY Son Male 4 Oldham, Lancashire, England
Ellen BRIERLEY Daur Female 2 Oldham, Lancashire, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 186 Henshaw St
Census Place Oldham, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341973
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4068 / 7
Page Number 8

Just a correction Eileen - according to free bmd, it was Arthur Holiday, rather than Halliday

then again...... the 1901 census does say Halliday

There was a marriage in Coppull, Lancashire of a Eleanor Halliday - but in 1928 and the groom was a Henry Robinson

1881 England Census
Name: Eleanor Brierley
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edmund
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Female
Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Spotland
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 8 Peel St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Spotland Nearer Side
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund Brierley 44
Harriet Brierley 39
Frederic Brierley 21
Edward Brierley 18
Mary Brierley 16
Frank Brierley 13
William Brierley 10
Emma Brierley 8
Eleanor Brierley 4
Arthur Brierley 4

Eleanor and Arthur possibly twins -

Births Jun 1877 (>99%)
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BRIERLEY Arthur Rochdale 8e 46
BRIERLEY Eleanor Rochdale 8e 4[35]

1891 England Census
Name: Eleanor Brierley
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Female
Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Spotland
Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund
Town: Rochdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Spotland Nearer Side
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Brierley 54
Harriet Brierley 49
Emma Brierley 18
Eleanor Brierley 14
Arthur Brierley 14
Elizabeth Brierley 8

ON THE OTHER HAND

1881 England Census
Name: Eleanor Brierley
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wardleworth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 3 Back Casson Gate
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Wardleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Brierley 34
Sarah Brierley 33
Alice Brierley 11
Sarah Brierley 9
Annie Brierley 8
Eleanor Brierley 5


1891 England Census
Name: Eleanor Brierley
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wardleworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Rochdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Wardleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Brierley 44
Alice Brierley 22
Sarah Brierley 19
Annie Brierley 18
Eleanor Brierley 15
Gertrude Brierley 9
William Brierley 7


Do you know parents' names?

OK, process of elimination rules out Eleanor with father James, as she was still at home in 1901.

Parents are Edmund (Edward) and Harriet.

Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Brierley Eleanor Rochdale 8e 50

Holiday Arthur Rochdale 8e 50

Have you found them in 1911? I am unable to find them.

Cannot find a death for Arthur Halliday on FreeBMD site.

Many thanks for helping me finding information on Eleanor and Arthur Halliday. I know that they had six children and she was the daughter of Harriet but after 1901 I cant find her, I think Arthur had died quite young and i know she lived in Coppull, but I dont know whether Arthur moved here with her.
I am interested to know that there may have been a possiblity of twins, and also no nothing of her children. But thank you to all who have looked for me.

Found these births in the Chorley district, which covers Coppull.

Mother's maiden name only shown from mid 1911 onwards, so other confirmed children not found

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
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Halliday Florence Brierley Chorley 8e 855

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Births Dec 1914 (97%)
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HALLIDAY George A Brierley Chorley 8e 807

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Births Dec 1918 (98%)
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Halliday Frederick Brierley Chorley 8e 547

Thanks again Wilma, I have been trying to find out for a long time, about these and never managed to find anything. I think there was one called Edith or Edie, but I dont know if she was an Halliday because I cant find her. I was wondering if Eleanor remarried, because I can find her death neither. thanks

baptisms of Eleanor & Arthur, Rochdale (2 different families)

Baptisms: 7 Jan 1877 St Michael & All Angels, Howe Bridge, Atherton, Lancashire, England
Arthur Brierley - Son of John Brierley & Esther
Born: 7 Jan 1877
Abode: Lovers Lane
Occupation: Miner
Baptised by: Jackson Smith, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1873-1906, Page 10, Entry 105
Source: Microfilm in Leigh Public Library

Baptisms: 25 Mar 1877 Healey Stones Wesleyan Chapel, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Eleanor Brierley - Dau of William Brierley & Mary
Born: 17 Jul 1876
Abode: Healey
Baptised by: ?Wm Kidman
Register: Baptism 1864 - 1944, Page 17, Entry 49
Source: LDS Film 1911698

edit - looking at these closer they possibly are not the same ones as the birth registrations above

Here's an Edith, but you would need to get certificate to confirm parents. Only think it could be right because of area registered!

Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
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HALLIDAY Edith Chorlton 8c 890

there do not seem to be any children born in Chorley with mmn Brierley before 1912. On lancs bmd for Chorley the mmn is usually recorded well before 1912 so any other children were probably born Rochdale district as it seems unlikely there were none between 1895 & 1912.

Further to my much earlier post Eileen - regarding an Eleanor Halliday marriage in Coppull in 1928 to a Henry Robinson - there is, in the death records, an Eleanor Robinson record from Chorley in 1936 which states the death age as 58.....putting this Eleanor Robinson right in the peg from the other possible marriage

Oh thanks Paul, it must be she married this robinson then, does it give an adress or anything else.

It does't give addresses Eileen, but a copy of the death record (£7) would uncover that. The marriage by the way, in 1928, was in Coppull Parish Church. If there is anything I can help with Coppull, let me know as I live there.