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Astra,
Thanks, it looks like the right information for the 1861 census but I'm not sure about the Thomas Gresty and Mrs Gresty with two infants David and ??? in 1893 as there doesn't appear to be a David in the 1901 census.

Denise

There is also this but i am not sure if it is your Thomas or not.
It's Thomas Gresty 26, Mrs. Gresty 24 and two infant children age 11 months David and ??? coming into England

Thos Gresty
Birth Date: abt 1867
Age: 26
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 2 Apr 1893
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Queenstown
Ship Name: Aurania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Aurania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: No owner or agent listed
Official Number: 87839

Here are John and Ann in 1861 with David age 1

John Gresty ...........Stone Mason
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Stolton, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Great Bolton
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Bolton Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 11h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 183
Household Members: Name Age
John Gresty 25
Ann Gresty 20
David Gresty 1 Mo

Thanks Alan,

Have just found from another board the following info

Here is their arrival in the US (New York) in 1867:

Name: John Gresty
Arrival Date: 25 May 1867
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: England
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Ship Name: Etna

John, Ann, and 2 children aged 1 & 3 presumably Thomas and John jnr, travelled together. No final destination was recorded.

Can't seem to find anything for 1861 and before.

Denise

I'm not having any luck with Joseph Gresty. The 1881 census shows him and others born America.................do you have birth certs for any of them.?
Maybe they were'nt in the Country in 1871 ?

Thanks Maureen,

Here is what we have:

1881 Census
John Gresty Head 47 (1834) Born Stretton, Cheshire Stone Mason
Ann Wife 44 (1837) Born Warrington, Lancashire
David Son 21 (1860) Born Bolton, Lancashire Plasterer
Mary J Daug 17 (1864) Born Warrington, Lancashire Fustain Cutter
Thomas Son 16 (1865) Born Liverpool, Lancashire General Labourer
John Son 14 (1867) Born Widnes, Lancashire General Labourer
Joseph Son 12 (1869) Born ??, America Scholar
Lizzie Daug 11 (1870) Born ??, America Scholar
Sarah Daug 9 (1872) Born ??, America Scholar
George Son 8 (1873) Born ??, America Scholar
Elizabeth Daug 1 (1880) Born Warrington, Lancashire
255 Winwick Road, Warrington, Lancashire


1891 Census


1901 Census
Thomas Gresty Head 36 (1865) Born Liverpool, Lancashire Stone Mason
Mary Ann Wife 33 (1868) Born St Helens, Lancashire Fustain Cutter Nee Webb Wed Dec 1887
Joseph Son 12 (1889) Born Warrington, Lancashire Scholar
Sarah Elizbth Daug 9 (1892) Born Warrington, Lancashire Scholar
John Son 8 (1893) Born Leigh, Lancashire Scholar
William Henry Son 4 (1897) Born Warrington, Lancashire
Ethel May Daug 2 (1899) Born Warrington, Lancashire
Thomas B Son 1 (1900) Born Warrington, Lancashire
Elizabeth Webb S I L 30 (1870) Born Widnes, Lancashire General Servant
80 Ellesmere Street, Patricroft, Eccles, Lancashire


1911 Census
Joseph Gresty Head 22 (1889) Born Warrington, Lancashire Hydraulic Crane Driver
Annie Holland Wife 21 (1890) Born Worksop, Nottinghamshire Wed Sep 1910 Barton upon Irwell
Elizzebeth Webb Aunt 40 (1871) Born Widnes, lamcashire General Domestic Servant
Annie Daug 1m (1911) Born Patricroft, Lancashire
15 Barton Grove, Patricroft, Eccles, Lancashire

Denise

Hi Denise,
OK-for the GRESTY side. Could you please re-cap (dates,places,etc.) what you do have.

Maureen

i didn't even understand the original question (mumbled maureen )

Brilliant, thanks Alan

enjoy your shopping Astra!

Ginny
x

PS dont forget the wine..its Friday!

Hi,

Thanks for the replies, I have been looking for my husbands side of things now that I have gotten quite a bit of my own side done, having not been at this searching game long (six weeks) have a lot to learn and lots of places to find out about.

Denise

Alan!! You old sweet talker you!
Not good.....................just psychic.....................something we all need to be on here sometimes..........lol.
Now i have to leave it with you and go shopping. Oh Joy!
Astra
xx

..........just for Ginny...I didnt know either

A whitesmith is one who makes pots and pans, things made from tin plate (such as cooking tins, etc.), internal bell pull systems, etc. ...

......told you that ASTRA was good....didnt I.

Excuse my ignorance..whats a 'whitesmith'?
x

1861 Apprentice Smith

Thomas Bramwell
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Grace
Gender: Male
Where born: Bury, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Fairfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub-registration district: Buxton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 77
Household Members: Name Age
John Bramwell 38
Grace Bramwell 43
Robert Bramwell 17
Thomas Bramwell 15
Margaret Bramwell 12
Grace Bramwell 10
Hannah Bramwell 7
John Bramwell 1
John Needham 42
Thomas Daud 28

for info only

Thomas Bramwell
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Bury, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 12 Oak Leigh
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Blacksmith (General)

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby (Rural)
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bramwell 32
Eliza Bramwell 31
Alfred Bramwell 14
John T. Bramwell 12
Frank Bramwell 9
Nathan Bramwell 7
Margaret A. Bramwell 4

Hi,

I wonder if anyone can help with some information on the names of Gresty and Bramwell? I have found my grandparents on the 1911 census Joseph Gresty and Robert Bramwell (Whitesmith) and also in the 1901 census with their parents, Thomas and Mary Ann Gresty & Thomas Bramwell (Blacksmith) (widower 1901) and Thomas Gresty with his parents, also Thomas Bramwell with his wife Eliza in the 1881 census. I can't seem to find any thing in the 1891 census or the 1871 and before census lists.
Any help most appreciated.

Denise