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Hi,

Through the 1861 census I discovered that my gx2 grandfather George Thomas Gray (b. 1853, Shotton Colliery, Co. Durham) had several siblings, the youngest being Joseph Grey (we now spell it Gray) born circa 1857 in Shotton Colliery, Co. Durham.

I am trying to find out more information on Joseph, his wife, children etc. and also if the name changed back to 'Gray' with an 'a'.

Many thanks in advance,
Russ

For helpers reference:

GREY, Thomas Head Married M 47 1814 Coal Miner South Shields Durham
GREY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 47 1814 Preston Durham
GREY, Jane A Daughter Unmarried F 17 1844 Trimdon Durham
GREY, John Son Unmarried M 15 1846 Putter In Coal Mine Trimdon Durham
GREY, George T Son M 8 1853 Scholar Shotton Colliery Durham
GREY, Anna Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar Shotton Colliery Durham
GREY, Joseph Son M 4 1857 Scholar Shotton Colliery Durham

RG number: RG09 Piece: 3747 Folio: 31 Page: 19

Registration District: Easington Sub District: 1 Easington

Civil Parish: Shotton
Address: First High Row, Shotton, Shotton Colliery County: Durham

Russ, you ask if the name changes back to GrAy but you say you spell it that way now. Do you mean in Joseph's case, or do you mean when?

They seem to have become Gray by 1871 and Thomas is widowed:

GRAY, Thomas Head M 55 1816 County Durham
GRAY, George Son M 19 1852 County Durham
GRAY, Joseph Son M 14 1857 County Durham
BARNES, Ann Daughter F 17 1854 County Durham
BARNES, John Son-In-Law M 19 1852 County Durham

RG number: RG10 Piece: 4972 Folio: 13 Page: 19

Registration District: Easington Sub District: Easington Enumeration District: 6 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish: Shotton Municipal Borough:
Address: Fourth Low Row, Shotton County: Durham

Thats great information MarieCeleste, thanks very much. I can now fill in Anns married name and have some idea when Elizabeth dies. Also our current form of spelling Gray returns, I presume it was written down in the census incorrectly.

Is there any way of finding out who and when Joseph married and who what were the childrens names?

Many thanks again,

Russ

Have you found any of the family on any census after 1871?

Hi Mac,

Not as far as Joseph is concerned I haven't.

I have through my didect line though ie. my g g grandfather, George Thomas Gray, but that was some time ago and I don't have access to the census now.

Russ

I can't find any of the other family members on 1881 census - where did you find George on the later census, have you still got your notes? (give me an idea and I may be able to locate him again). Sometimes families move around together, but this family seems to have disappeared, can't even find the married daughter.

Hi Mac,

George Thomas Gray is on the 1891 census with his wife Ruth and children John W, Thomas S. (my g grandfather), Isabella S, George T. Elizabeth J. and Richard H. S. and also the 1901 census with his new wife, Catherine. I cannot find any death for George Thomas incidently, I would love to find out where and when he died.

I don't seem to have them on the 1881 census either for some reason??

Thanks Mac,

Russ

For info - 1901 census:

Church St Trimdon Foundry
Civil Parish Wingate
Rural District Easington
Town or Village or Hamlet Trimdon Foundry
Ecclesiastical Parish Deaf Hill Cum Langdale St Pauls
Parliamentary Borough or Division Easington
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Durham
Householder 1
Name Catherine Gray
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 49
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Newcastle
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Elizabeth Jane Gray
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 13
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Trimdon Durham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Evelyn Gray
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 8
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Trimdon Colliery Co Durham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name George Thos Gray
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 47
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Deputy Overman At Colliery Undergrd
Employment Status
Where Born Shotton Durham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name Richard Gray
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 16
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Post Man
Employment Status
Where Born Trimdon Durham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name Ruth Gray
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 10
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Trimdon Colliery Co Durham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 7
Name Thomas Gray
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 23
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Coal Hewer Underground
Employment Status
Where Born Trimdon Colliery Co Durham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 8
Name Theodosia Kell
Relation to Head of Family Step Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 17
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Trimdon Durham
Language
Infirmity

And them in 1911:

2 Church Street Trimdon Foundry Trimdon Colliery
Parish Wingate
Town Trimdon Foundry Trimdon Colliery
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 4 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN30016 RG78PN1734 RD552 SD1 ED24 SN23
Administrative County Durham
Registration District Easington
Registration Sub District Wingate
Enumeration District 24
Householder 1
Name George Thomas Gray
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 57
Estimated Year of Birth 1854
Occupation Colliery Deputy Overman
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry In Coal Mine
Place of Birth Durham Shotton
Householder 2
Name Catherine Gray
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 16 Years
Gender F
Age 59
Estimated Year of Birth 1852
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Northumberland Newcastle
Householder 3
Name Elizabeth Gray
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 24
Estimated Year of Birth 1887
Occupation School Teacher Elementary
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry County Counil
Place of Birth Durham Trimdon
Householder 4
Name Ruth Gray
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1892
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Durham Trimdon
Householder 5
Name Evelyn Gray
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1893
Occupation Shop Clerk
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Grocer
Place of Birth Durham Trimdon
Householder 6
Name Theodora Kell
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 27
Estimated Year of Birth 1884
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Durham Trimdon

Here's George on the 1881 census:
GRAY, George Thomas Head Married M 27 1854 Coal Miner
Shotton Colliery
Durham VIEW
GRAY, Ruth Scott Wife Married F 25 1856
Quarrington Hill
Durham VIEW
GRAY, John William Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Trimdon
Durham VIEW
GRAY, Thomas Scott Son Single M 3 1878
Trimdon
Durham VIEW
GRAY, Isabella Scott Daughter Single F 1 1880
Trimdon
Durham VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
4904 Folio:
12 Page:
18

Registration District:
Stockton Sub District:
Sedgefield Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

But still no sign of the one you're after - Joseph, sorry.

Thanks for all your efforts Mac,

This has certainly filled in some gaps.

Cheers,

Russ

Isabella Scott Grey Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 19 NOV 1879 Wingate, Durham, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: George Grey Family
Mother: Ruth Scott


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C017029

Poss marriage?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about George Gray
Name: George Gray
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Durham (1837-1938)
County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 619



Margaret Glancy 1874 Durham (1837-1938) Durham
*******George Gray 1874 Durham (1837-1938) Durham
*******Ruth Scott Hall 1874 Durham (1837-1938) Durham
William Walker 1874 Durham (1837-1938) Durham

1861 England Census
about Ruth S Hall
Name: Ruth S Hall
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John W Scott
Mother's name: Isabella Scott
Gender: Female
Where born: Crow Trees Pit, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Coxhoe
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members: Name Age
John W Scott 25
Isabella Scott 23
Ruth S Hall 5
John W Scott 2
Elisabeth Scott 2 MO
Richard Hall 20
Thomas Hall 14

Thanks Mel!

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