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Cindy

Cindy Report 19 Sep 2010 09:06

Can anyone help? I am trying to trace George Knott, glass blower. Born about 1844, (Father of Thomas Knott born about 1886 shown on 1891 census living with his father George, and siblings James, William,Jame, Robert and Arther). They lived in the Lambeth area, London.
There appears to be several possible lines but all different and i can not figure which is correct. I thought George married a Jane Caney in 1865 aged 22, the marriage cert shows father as James Knott.I have found a George born 1843 whos father is William, mother Sarah (formally Pope). I have found a George B1846 Father John, Mother Sarah and am now totally confused and would like help to clarify which line is correct.Thank you

Vera

Vera Report 19 Sep 2010 09:18

1881
George Knott
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth

Civil parish: Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 47 College St
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Glass Blower

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 37a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Knott 37
George Knott 15
William Knott 18
James Knott 7


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OriginalRegards VERA

Cindy

Cindy Report 19 Sep 2010 09:21

Oh i dont know, thats yet another line, i'm completely lost. i was trying to trace back from my grandfathers 1891 entry and his marriage cert (1911) which records father as George, no mother mentioned, i have found several possiblities as listed but all could be right, ive been at it all day and still cant see it.
(i think i listed two seperate posts for two diff family mebers but gave same title, have ammended, let me know if not correctly listed now) thank you for reading and helping

Vera

Vera Report 19 Sep 2010 09:21

1871

Jane was alive on this census....by 1881 she is dead

George Knott
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane Knott
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Mary Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Trinity Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members: Name Age
George Knott 27
Jane Knott 26
George Knott 7


Regards Vera

Cindy

Cindy Report 19 Sep 2010 09:21

yes thats the lline i was following vera, but it doesnt follow back or onwards, i have a wedding cert that appears to match stating father James (1865) im completley lost

Vera

Vera Report 19 Sep 2010 09:23

Cindy.

The ones I found for you on the 1871/1881 are yours....he is a glass blower...he was married to a Jane .

What do you think?

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 19 Sep 2010 09:26

The marriage
Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Caney Jane E. London 1c 62
Carden Richard E London 1c 62
KNOTT George E London 1c 62



REgards Vera

Cindy

Cindy Report 19 Sep 2010 09:30

i thought he was married to jane but that makes his father james, glass blower according to the marriage cert but get lost on the 1861 census, tracing backwards

Dea

Dea Report 19 Sep 2010 09:30

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about George Knott Name: George Knott
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 20 Jul 1845
Father's Name: James Knott .. Glass blower
Mother's Name: Hannah Knott
Parish: St Mary at Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex

Address - Robert Street

Dea x

Cindy

Cindy Report 19 Sep 2010 09:35

ok so mother hannah father james, not William and sarah (formally pope) on birth cert found 1843, nor john and sarah on 1861 census

Cindy

Cindy Report 19 Sep 2010 09:37

its taken me all day and you guys 5 mins thank you....they all seemed to fit to me albeit disjointidly

Vera

Vera Report 19 Sep 2010 09:40

Hi Cindy,

Am trying to find them before 1871.....so far no luck (James Hannah George)

We have all been there Cindy...when one cannot see the wood for the trees.....thats family treeing :-))

Regards VERA

Vera

Vera Report 19 Sep 2010 09:44

1851

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KNOTT, James Head Married M 38 1813 Glass Blower
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
KNOTT, Emma Wife Married F 34 1817
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
KNOTT, James Son M 16 1835 Glass Blower
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
KNOTT, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836 Glass Blower
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
KNOTT, William Son M 11 1840 Glass Blower
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
KNOTT, Hannah Daughter F 13 1838 Scholar
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
KNOTT, Charlotte Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
KNOTT, George Son M 7 1844 Scholar
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
KNOTT, Thomas Son M 2 1849
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW
KNOTT, Joseph Son M 0 (4 MOS) 1851
Lambeth
Surrey VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1570 Folio:
453 Page:
24

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Waterloo Second Part Enumeration District:
18 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Saint Thomas's

Civil Parish:
Saint Mary Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Lambeth Address:
7, James Place, Charles Street, Saint Mary Lambeth, Lambeth County:
Surrey


rEGARDS vERA

Cindy

Cindy Report 19 Sep 2010 10:09

hi Vera, back again stopped for tea...yeh i guess thats all part of the fun..its just one of those lines that a lot of people get get intertwind and mis connect then they ALL angles seem right, as i say been at it all day and each time every one seemed a possiblity...but i'll follow your leads thanks guys...
Any hints as to recognise the good leads??

Vera

Vera Report 19 Sep 2010 10:16

Cindy,
The only hint I can give is if you have been on it for so long...that you feel like tearing your hair out.........leave it and come back the next day :-))

It normally will then work out.

Regards Vera

Dea

Dea Report 19 Sep 2010 10:33

I found the 1851 which Vera posted but was concerned because the wife's name was Emma, however, these christenings are parents James and Hannah and Hannah Jnr's address matches the census so it IS the correct family:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Hannah Knott Name: Hannah Knott
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 11 Jun 1837
Father's Name: James Knott .......... Glass blower
Mother's Name: Hannah Knott
Parish: St Mary at Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex

Address: James Place
......................

Other christenings for parents James and Hannah are:

William David Knott Baptism 1 Dec 1839 James Knott,
Hannah Knott St Mary at Lambeth Lambeth

George Knott Baptism 20 Jul 1845 James Knott,
Hannah Knott St Mary at Lambeth Lambeth

Thomas Knott Baptism 22 Mar 1846 James Knott,
Hannah Knott St Mary at Lambeth Lambeth

Thomas Knott Baptism 28 Jan 1849 James Knott,
Hannah Knott St Mary at Lambeth Lambeth

Thomas Knott Baptism 28 Jan 1849 James Knott,
Hannah Knott St Mary at Lambeth Lambeth

Joseph Knott Baptism 1 Dec 1850 James Knott,
Hannah Knott St Mary at Lambeth Lambeth

Joseph Knott Baptism 1 Dec 1850 James Knott,
Hannah Knott St Mary at Lambeth Lambeth

...............

I am looking at this for a 'possible' marriage??

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about James Knott Name: James Knott
Spouse Name: Joanna Perry
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Feb 1833
Parish: St Mary at Lambeth
County: Middlesex
Borough: Lambeth


Can't find them on 1841 though!!

Must go off for a while, will come back to it later.

Dea x

Cindy

Cindy Report 19 Sep 2010 10:35

wow thank you all so much...how on earth do you guys find this stuff?

Cindy

Cindy Report 19 Sep 2010 10:42

going off for tonite thank you for al;l your help. will be back tomorrow to check if any more posts...thank you all