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Hi, im drawing a blank online at the moment to the above person in my family tree (mums side)....census wont have him due to him being born in 1909 and records only show where he was born but nothing else of use.
He was born in 1909 in edmonton (london )......can anyone help?

thanks-kev

You didn't give a name but if you have found his birth registration you need to get the birth certificate to be able to find his parents.

Christine

What's his name Kev?The record that shows where he was born will have a Vol Number and Page Number on the record you need to use this info along with name and reg district to order his birth cert.This would show both parents names and occupations.

You can order certs online from

www.gro.gov.uk for the cost of £7 per cert.

Hope that helps.

that does help thanks.

his name was Francis Walter Friedlos

Ernest Friedlos 1880,St Pancras,London.Have you any Idea if this could be Francis' father ?.

Births Dec 1909
FRIEDLOS Francis Walter Edmonton 3a 474

Marriages Mar 1934
Armstrong Cissie R Friedlos Barnet 3a 941

Friedlos Francis W Armstrong Barnet 3a 941

I'm Playing my "wild card" here !,but obviously,you'll have to confirm by means of certs.

Ernest Fiedlos married Daisy Emily Morgan[born 1880]
in 1903,Edmonton,London

WILD CARD?...lol whats that mean?

thanks for the help but i have ordered his birth cert from the web site suggested and hope this will show some info on father and mother.

iv looked into ernest but couldnt find a positive connection to him.

thanks-kev.

Actually the following is correct


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Ernest Friedlos
Name: Ernest Friedlos to Mary Elizabeth Cannon
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Edmonton
County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 1058

Your Francis's older brother:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Ernest Richard Friedlos
Name: Ernest Richard Friedlos
Year of Registration: 1904 (30th June)
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 214

This information is confirmed in the WW1 Service Records


British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about Ernest Friedlos
Name: Ernest Friedlos
Age: 35
Birth Year: abt 1880
Residence : 213 Fa??, Wood Green
Regiment Number: 5684
Document Year: 1915
Number of Images: 23

Ernest (Snr)
Roman Catholic
Occupation: French Polisher

1891 England Census
about Joseph Friedlos
Name: Joseph Friedlos
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria S
Gender: Male
Where born: Canton, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 25 Chapel Grove
Occupation: Cabinet Maker


Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Friedlos 55
Maria S Friedlos 37 (St pancras)
Felix Friedlos 18
Albert Friedlos 15
Elizabeth A Friedlos 13
Rosa Friedlos 11
Ernest Friedlos 10 (St Pancras)
Walter V Friedlos 9
Frank C Friedlos 6
Robert Friedlos 8/12

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Joseph Friedlos
Name: Joseph Friedlos to Maria Spencer Etheridge
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 148

Hmm, now Joseph is from Switzerland!


1881 England Census
about Joseph Freedlos
Name: Joseph Freedlos
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Marie
Gender: Male
Where born: Achentz, Switzerland

Civil Parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 15 Warren St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Cabinet Maker

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Freedlos 42
Marie Freedlos 27
Felix Freedlos 8
Albert Freedlos 5
Elizabeth Freedlos 3
Rose Freedlos 2
Ernest Freedlos

Swiss must be right


1901 England Census
about Joseph Friedlos
Name: Joseph Friedlos
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mana
Gender: Male
Where born: Swiss, Switzerland

Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Upper Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: 63
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 207
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Friedlos 64
Mana Firedlos 49
Felix Firedlos 28
Ernest Firedlos 20
Walter Firedlos 18
Frank Firedlos 16
Robert Firedlos 10
Lilian Firedlos 8

1871 England Census
about Joseph Fridlos
Name: Joseph Fridlos
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Switzerland
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members:
Name Age
Eugene Boisson 31
Jane Boisson 29
Joseph Fridlos 33
Randoph Meckish 25


1871 England Census
about Maria Etheridge
Name: Maria Etheridge
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 271
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph J Jenkins 60
Eleanor Lowe 61
Jane Wilson 38
Maria Etheridge 19

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Maria Spencer Etheridge
Name: Maria Spencer Etheridge
Year of Registration: 1854
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 30

1861 England Census
about Maria S Etheridge
Name: Maria S Etheridge
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Jemima
Gender: Female
Where born: Pancras, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England


Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 399
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Etheridge 45 (Plumstead, Kent)
Jemima Etheridge 46 (Fletching, Sussex)
Emma J Etheridge 10
Richard Etheridge 8
Maria S Etheridge 7
Rosetta Etheridge 5
Ellen Etheridge 3


1871 England Census
about Richard Etheridge
Name: Richard Etheridge
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jemima
Gender: Male
Where born: Plumstead, Kent, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

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Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 425
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Etheridge 55
Jemima Etheridge 55

1851 England Census
about Richard Etheridge
Name: Richard Etheridge
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jensima
Gender: Male
Where born: Plumstead, Kent, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Etheridge 38
Jensima Etheridge 35
John R Etheridge 17
Susan Etheridge 11
Sarah E Etheridge 9
Henry E Etheridge 7
Alfred Etheridge 8
Eliza J Etheridge 2
Emma I Etheridge 3 Mo

Hi Kev,"Wild Card" Just throwing info in LOL!

Lewella has given you correct info regarding Ernest [French Polisher;1880] and census.

Now that you've ordered the cert...all's well.Regard,Cass

holly jesus thats alot of info...thanks lewella thats certainly got me back on track, owe you a drink for that....lol