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Jax08
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11 May 2010 14:17 |
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Desperately trying find Lucy Trixie Earls's parents, Lucy is my Great-grandmother and she was born in Callington, South Australia on 8 Jan 1884 or 1886. Before she got married she was living in Mt Barker, South Australia.
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AnnCardiff
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11 May 2010 14:27 |
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was Earls her maiden name or married name?
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11 May 2010 14:29 |
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William Earls Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 18 MAY 1889 Callington, Strathalbyn, South Australia, Australia Christening: Death: 15 APR 1928 Callington, Strathalbyn, South Australia, Australia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Michael Earls Family Mother: Ellen Margaret Critchley
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11 May 2010 14:30 |
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Husband Michael Earls Pedigree Birth: 1860 , South Australia, Australia Christening: Marriage: 14 NOV 1885 Mt Barker, Strathalbyn, South Australia, Australia Death: 1924 , South Australia, Australia Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife Ellen Margaret Critchley Pedigree Birth: 1859 Bremer, Strathalbyn, South Australia, Australia Christening: Marriage: 14 NOV 1885 Mt Barker, Strathalbyn, South Australia, Australia Death: 14 MAY 1940 Adelaide, South Australia, Australia Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Children
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Joseph Earls Pedigree Male Birth: 14 APR 1886 Callington, Strathalbyn, South Australia, Australia Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. John Vincent Earls Pedigree Male Birth: 20 OCT 1887 Callington, Strathalbyn, South Australia, Australia Christening: Death: 1917 Callington, Strathalbyn, South Australia, Australia Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. William Earls Pedigree Male Birth: 18 MAY 1889 Callington, Strathalbyn, South Australia, Australia Christening: Death: 15 APR 1928 Callington, Strathalbyn, South Australia, Australia Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Michael James Earls Pedigree Male Birth: 30 OCT 1891 Callington, Strathalbyn, South Australia, Australia Christening: Death: 28 MAR 1967 Adelaide, South Australia, Australia Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Alice May Earls Pedigree Female Birth: 27 DEC 1893 Callington, Strathalbyn, South Australia, Australia Christening: Death: Burial:
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TonyOz
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12 May 2010 01:19 |
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Hi Jackie.
Cant see a birth for a Lucy Earls registered on South Australia c.d Index.
Nothing showing in Western Australia ( on-line )
Victoria has one Lucy Earls birth registered 1870 Warr ( poss: Warrnambool) Father: John and Mother: Catherine O'Brien
Is this her marriage in S.A..? If so, then she states her father was Joseph.
Groom: BROADRIBB Given names: William Henry Bride: EARLS Given names: Lucy Date: 1912-10-21 Groom Age: 27 Status: S Groom's Father: James BROADRIBB Bride Age: 26 Status: S Bride's Father: Joseph EARLS Place: St Andrew Presbyterian Church Unley District: Ade Symbol: Book/Page: 253/221 Cross Reference:
It might pay to purchase her marriage cert, to see whom she nominates as her parents.
There could be a number of reasons why your Lucy is not registered as Lucy Earls in S.A.
One reason "could" be..... that she wasnt born as Lucy EARLS......... Her mother may have re-married to an EARLS through a second marriage after Lucy was born, and Lucy adopted the surname from a step father.
Or she may just have not been registered?
Of course, one is surmising, and another good reason to purchase her wedding cert.
There are 5 "Lucy/Lucille" births registerd in "Callington" South Australia
Lucy HAWKE 1882 Lucy LEWIS 1879 Lucy TUCKER 1857 Lucy Alice CHAPMAN 1879 Lucy May DOUNES 1888
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Jax08
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12 May 2010 22:53 |
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maiden name
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Jax08
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12 May 2010 23:22 |
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Thanks Ann & Tony for your help, Yes, Tony that is Lucy's marriage you found.
I do have Lucy's marriage cert, doesn't say much-
Born: Callington, SA Residence at time of Marriage: Mt Barker,SA Parents: just says Joseph Earls
My Nanna said she had 2 sisters -Beatrice Earls married James Downing & Katherine (Kit) Earls married George Hill, they both married in WA. I can't find their births anywhere aswell.
Jackie (QLD)
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MeJoy75
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13 May 2010 01:08 |
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Jackie,
Do you know when the family arrived in Australia, there is a possibility that they were born before emigrating. I noticed that Beatrice & Katharine both married in 1898.
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Jax08
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13 May 2010 01:45 |
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Have know idea mel, but you could be right, they may have emigrated to Australia as there is no birth for them in Australia. Lucy was the younger sister so she was born in Callington SA (states on marriage cert) and her elder sisters may have emigrated with there parents.
Is there anyway of finding passenger shipping records to South Australia?
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TonyOz
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13 May 2010 03:50 |
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I noticed on Beatrice marriage in W.A she is Beatrice Annie EARLS.
This ( below ) may mean nothing, but nothing ventured nothing gained.
1881 Census.
Name: Lucy Earls Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Cathe. Gender: Female Where born: Hulme, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Chorlton On Medlock County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 22 Richmond St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Chorlton Upon Medlock ED, institution, or vessel: 46 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Earls 61 Cathe. Earls 38 Annie Elizth Earls 18.......( Beatrice Annie Elizth - perhaps ? ) Thos. Earls 14 Kate Earls 12....................( Katherine ? ) Amy Earls 8 Herbert Earls 6 Lucy Earls 3.....................( Lucy ? ) Harriet Earls 1
************************************************** There is also a tree on Ancestry.com
Father: Joseph EARLS ( no wife listed )
Children: Mary Anges Earls 1868 – Jane Elizabeth Earls 1871 – Katherine Earls 1878 – Beatrice Earls 1879 – Lucy Trixie Earls 1886 – 1957 ( and a Photo of Lucy )
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Julcoe
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13 May 2010 04:27 |
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may be not Tony..
Family in 1891.. Name Age Joseph Earls 71 Amy Earls 18 Albert Earls 16 Lucy Earls 13 Harriet Earls 11 Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%) EARLS Annie Elizabeth Chorlton 8c 1011
Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%) Earls Kate Chorlton 8c 1003
Marriages Mar 1887 (>99%) EARLS Thomas Chorlton 8c 895
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JaneyCanuck
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13 May 2010 04:29 |
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The births of all those other Earls-s in Callington that Ann o' GG posted certainly seem coincidental. It seems conceivable that the family arrived there with children and had more children there, and since the older children grew up there, they regarded it as where they "came from". ... Or, Lucy was born to Ellen Margaret Critchley just before the marriage to Earls?
The 1881 English Lucy Earls (born 1877) is still in England in 1901, unfortunately:
Name: Lucy Earls Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Relation: Sister Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil parish: South Manchester
and seems to have married in Chorlton district (where she was born) in 1905.
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TonyOz
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13 May 2010 04:37 |
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lol
Mmmm...O'h well...there goes that theory. It sounded good at the time.
Trouble is none of these girls births are registered in any State.....Vic. N.S.W, Q.LD, TAS, W.A......and also checked New Zealand ( nothing )
From cd....1842 to 1906 births in S.A there is only one child born ( with Joseph EARLS ) as father. A Mary Ann EARLS in 1858
Checked South Australia shipping ( incoming ) but found only one Joseph Earls in 1854 aged 34 with wife and two children from Wicklow Ireland. ....but not a Beatrice or Katharine.
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TonyOz
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13 May 2010 04:48 |
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From S.A Births. 1842 to 1906 ( Registered EARLS )
To Henry Joseph & Margaret
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Edna Doris Date: 1894-05-20 Sex: F Father: Henry Joseph EARLS Mother: Margaret TILLETT Birth Place/Residence: Callington District Code: Nai Symbol: Book: 543 Page: 355 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Henry Joseph Date: 1887-10-11 Sex: M Father: Henry Joseph EARLS Mother: Margaret TILLETT Birth Place/Residence: Callington District Code: Str Symbol: Book: 405 Page: 308 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Lorrie Audrey Date: 1891-09-29 Sex: M Father: Henry Joseph EARLS Mother: Margaret TILLETT Birth Place/Residence: Callington District Code: Str Symbol: Book: 488 Page: 188 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Margaret Ellen Date: 1889-07-11 Sex: F Father: Henry Joseph EARLS Mother: Margaret TILLETT Birth Place/Residence: Stepney District Code: Nor Symbol: Book: 442 Page: 300 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Thomas Harold Tillett Date: 1885-07-26 Sex: M Father: Henry Joseph EARLS Mother: Margaret TILLETT Birth Place/Residence: Callington District Code: Str Symbol: Book: 357 Page: 128 Cross Reference:
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TonyOz
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13 May 2010 04:49 |
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To John & Lily
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Edward Leo Date: 1898-01-27 Sex: M Father: John EARLS Mother: Lily RUNDLE Birth Place/Residence: Kanmantoo District Code: Nai Symbol: Book: 615 Page: 437 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Francis Herbert Date: 1890-07-05 Sex: M Father: John EARLS Mother: Lily RUNDLE Birth Place/Residence: Kanmantoo District Code: Str Symbol: Book: 462 Page: 66 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Frederick Bernhard Date: 1895-04-17 Sex: M Father: John EARLS Mother: Lilly RUNDLE Birth Place/Residence: Kanmantoo District Code: Nai Symbol: M Book: 561 Page: 267 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Gertrude Lily Date: 1893-05-08 Sex: F Father: John EARLS Mother: Lily RUNDLE Birth Place/Residence: Kanmantoo District Code: Nai Symbol: Book: 522 Page: 146 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Henry Gordon Date: 1900-01-17 Sex: M Father: John EARLS Mother: Lily RUNDLE Birth Place/Residence: Nr Callington District Code: Nai Symbol: Book: 653 Page: 230 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: John Clarence Date: 1887-08-17 Sex: M Father: John EARLS Mother: Lily RUNDLE Birth Place/Residence: Kent Town District Code: Nor Symbol: Book: 402 Page: 432 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Joseph Clement Date: 1889-01-28 Sex: M Father: John EARLS Mother: Lily RUNDLE Birth Place/Residence: Kanmantoo District Code: Str Symbol: Book: 432 Page: 140 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Kathleen Veronica Date: 1895-04-17 Sex: F Father: John EARLS Mother: Lilly RUNDLE Birth Place/Residence: Kanmantoo District Code: Nai Symbol: M Book: 561 Page: 267 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Mary Ruby Date: 1897-01-04 Sex: F Father: John EARLS Mother: Lily RUNDLE Birth Place/Residence: Kanmantoo District Code: Nai Symbol: Book: 597 Page: 138 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Philip Raphael Date: 1903-01-02 Sex: M Father: John EARLS Mother: Lily RUNDLE Birth Place/Residence: Paringa District Code: Nai Symbol: Book: 706 Page: 312 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Theresa May Date: 1901-01-19 Sex: F Father: John EARLS Mother: Lily RUNDLE Birth Place/Residence: Aclare District Code: Nai Symbol: Book: 671 Page: 127 Cross Reference:
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TonyOz
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13 May 2010 04:52 |
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To Michael & Ellen
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Alice May Date: 1893-12-27 Sex: F Father: Michael EARLS Mother: Ellen CRITCHLEY Birth Place/Residence: Callington District Code: Nai Symbol: Book: 535 Page: 167 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Francis Philip Date: 1896-03-10 Sex: M Father: Michael EARLS Mother: Ellen CRITCHLEY Birth Place/Residence: Callington District Code: Nai Symbol: Book: 580 Page: 311 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Gregory Leo Date: 1897-07-27 Sex: M Father: Michael EARLS Mother: Ellen CRITCHLEY Birth Place/Residence: Callington District Code: Nai Symbol: Book: 607 Page: 233 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Irene Mary Date: 1899-12-24 Sex: F Father: Michael EARLS Mother: Ellen CRITCHLEY Birth Place/Residence: Callington District Code: Nai Symbol: Book: 652 Page: 298 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: John Date: 1887-10-02 Sex: M Father: Michael EARLS Mother: Ellen Margaret CRITCHLEY Birth Place/Residence: Callington District Code: Str Symbol: Book: 405 Page: 307 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Joseph Date: 1886-04-16 Sex: M Father: Michael EARLS Mother: Ellen CRITCHLEY Birth Place/Residence: Callington District Code: Str Symbol: Book: 373 Page: 457 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: Michael James Date: 1891-10-30 Sex: M Father: Michael EARLS Mother: Ellen CRITCHLEY Birth Place/Residence: Callington District Code: Str Symbol: Book: 491 Page: 97 Cross Reference:
Surname: EARLS Given Names: William Date: 1889-05-18 Sex: M Father: Michael EARLS Mother: Ellen CRITCHLEY Birth Place/Residence: Callington District Code: Str Symbol: Book: 439 Page: 73 Cross Reference:
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TonyOz
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13 May 2010 05:10 |
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Registered Marriages S.A 1842 to 1916 ( EARLS ) 4 only
All Status are S....( Single )
Groom: EARLS Given names: Henry Joseph Bride: TILLETT Given names: Margaret Date: 1884-05-13 Groom Age: 26 Status: S Groom's Father: Joseph EARLS Bride Age: 18 Status: S Bride's Father: Thomas TILLETT Place: Registry Office Adelaide District: Ade Symbol: Book/Page: 139/685 Cross Reference:
Groom: EARLS Given names: Michael Bride: CRITCHLEY Given names: Ellen Date: 1885-11-24 Groom Age: 25 Status: S Groom's Father: Joseph EARLS Bride Age: 26 Status: S Bride's Father: John CRITCHLEY Place: St Francis de Sales Church Mount Barker District: MtB Symbol: Book/Page: 145/677 Cross Reference:
Groom: EARLS Given names: John Bride: RUNDLE Given names: Lily Date: 1887-08-10 Groom Age: 21 Status: S Groom's Father: Joseph EARLS Bride Age: 23 Status: S Bride's Father: Joseph RUNDLE Place: St Francis de Sales Church Mount Barker District: MtB Symbol: Book/Page: 152/438 Cross Reference:
Groom: EARLS Given names: Herbert Francis Bride: ROLLINS Given names: Gladys Priscilla May Date: 1913-03-22 Groom Age: 22 Status: S Groom's Father: John Joseph EARLS Bride Age: 19 Status: S Bride's Father: Thomas William ROLLINS Place: Res of T W Rollins Mount Lofty District: Ade Symbol: Book/Page: 254/844 Cross Reference:
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Jax08
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13 May 2010 12:47 |
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That tree on Ancestry.com is mine, I'm have a big question mark on Mary & Jane not sure now if they relate to Lucy, Kit & Beatrice. I have better delete Mary & Jane off my tree. Yes, that photo is of lucy before she married William Henry Broadribb in 1912.
Tony, that was some good detective work you found with the 1881 census. And thank you Julcoe for looking in the 1891 census to rule that family out. Oh well!!! She is a tough one to crack.
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Jax08
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13 May 2010 12:54 |
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A theory, grandparents may have raised her or may have been adopted into the Earls.
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