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I am trying to find details on a Benjamin Dunkerley, born circa 1890. Apparently he did live in Sholver Lane, Moorside, Oldham at one stage in his later life.

This person is my great grandfather by blood, however he never marries my Great Grand mother and it seems as if it was an affair.

Quite a few Benjamins around Oldham:

Births Dec 1884
DUNKERLEY Benjamin Oldham 8d 616

What was your grandmothers name???

Grandmother name was Margaret Minton (Sharples at the time).

The thing is, Mr Sharples was in the Army and went away for extended periods of time. During this time, Mrs Sharples got intimate with Ben Dunkerley. Mr Sharples comes back and my grandfather is adopted.

Ben Dunkerley is not on the birth Certificate, the fathers name is blank. The certificate does have Dunkerley as the middle name, as reference to his father by the mother.

Marriages Jun 1912
Minton Margaret Sharples Oldham 8d 1209
Sharples John W Minton Oldham 8d 1209

Found the marriage for Margaret & Mr Sharples but this is way after 1890?

You mention having your grandfathers certificate? what is his name and dob/

Found quite a few children around Oldham, do any of these names ring a bell??

June 1914
SHARPLES Clara Minton Coventry 6d 1534

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Births Jun 1917

Sharples John W Minton Oldham 8d 852

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Births Sep 1919

Sharples Thomas D Minton Oldham 8d 875

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Births Dec 1920

Sharples Ivy Minton Ashton 8d 957

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Births Sep 1922

Sharples Lawrence E Minton Ashton 8d 896

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Births Sep 1924

Sharples James A Minton Ashton 8d 832

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Births Dec 1926

Sharples Alfred W Minton Ashton 8d 1075

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Births Jun 1928

Sharples Robert Minton Ashton 8d 1108

Found this marriage for Ben, assuming he was still single when he had an affair;

Marriages Sep 1917
Dunkerley Benjamin Jones Ashton 8d 763
Jones Jane Dunkerley Ashton 8d 763

There is this birth which is around the right time:-

Name: Benjamin Dunkerley
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 644

There is also this birth which could be your great grandmother:-

Name: Margaret Minton
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 6_0

Kath. x

Grandfather was born on 10th June1919 his name is Thomas Dunkerley Simister.

Margaret Minton married John Sharples in June 1912

It is details of Benjamin Dunkerley I am keen to find

This Benjamin would appear to be a likely 'culprit' - Living at Sholver Lane which you mention above on 1901,
though he was a little older than the one suggested above:

1901 England Census
about Ben Dunkerley
Name: Ben Dunkerley
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: Moorside St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 46 Sholver Lane.

Occupation:............ Butcher

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Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Above Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 125
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Brierley 72
Sarah H Brierley 48
Henry Brierley 37
Joseph Brierley 31
William M Brierley 29
Ben Dunkerley 20 ****************


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3818; Folio: 132; Page: 23.


Dea x

This is his birth:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1880
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

DUNKERLEY Ben Crompton Oldham - mm name BRIERLEY ..........CR/22/341
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Births Sep 1880
DUNKERLEY Ben Oldham 8d 729

Dea x

He is on 1891 twice - once, again with his grandmother, and also with his parents Alfred + Elizabeth (This is not uncommon).

This is the marriage of Alfred + Elizabeth:

Marriages Jun 1880
Brierley Elizabeth Oldham 8d 830
DUNKERLEY Alfred Oldham 8d 830

Dea x

Dea, I think you have hit the jackpot!

Did you find this information on Genes, or another site, as I have searched a lot for Ben Dunkerley, but could not find him at the Sholver Lane address

OOOpss - sorry Steven,

I had to go off for a while and now have to go and cook a barbecue!!

I am sure this is the one - let me know what you need next.

I will be back later,

Dea x

p.s. - I don't use Genes for research - far too expensive!!

Most of this was from Ancestry!!!!

+ BMd from FreeBmd + Lancs Bmd

Dea x

I am a gold member on Genes, but have already noticed that the search for people on here is rubbish comparred to other sites.

Thanks ever so much for finding Ben. Is it best to sign up to ancestry?

'Personally speaking' Steven, I would say yes!

Ancestry is the best value I have found.

I also use another couple of sites for diffent things but I don't think I could manage without an Ancestry sub!!

'My' opinion only but I think many others would agree.

Dea x

P.S. - Steven,

I have never been able to work out what a 'gold member' on Genes was - I am not being 'funny' but I was offered this a long time ago and when I tried to find out what it was, it just said I was 'upgraded' already??? and could send it to a friend??

I never looked much further but am curious to know what it means and how much it costs?

Can you enlighten me?

Thanks,

Dea x

I pay £35 for 6 months membership, which allows me to search the census etc.

Whilst I thought this was great, it appears not as great as I first thought!
Even these community sections are not that good, as you do not get alerted when someone replies to your post (unless I am missing something).

I think I will join ancestry as well!

Hope you have a good BBQ

Good barbecue thanks, though it got a bit 'cool' so we ate it indoors

Ancestry is much better value - census up to 1901, Bmd's, Army records + much more - I think it is about £79 per year. ??

Anyway, lot more to offer, + other people's trees and connections.

Go for it but INSTEAD of rather then in addition to GR. (Gold)

Dea x.

I agree with Dea, Steven. I couldn't have managed without my Ancestry subscription (I get it as a Christmas present every year).

Why not try their 14 day free trial first to get an idea of how much stuff they have.

Kath. x

Thanks Kathleen, I think I will be just plunging in and purchasing the subscription!

I agree with Dea and Kathleen

I couldn't do without my ancestry subscription.

I have been a member of GR since 2003, and will keep this subscritpion just for these Community Boards. I pay £9.95 per year

The problem with the Gold membership is that in fact GR do not carry many of the records themselves ....... they just re-direct you to other sites!There is some debate amongst members as to how many they carry. I myself believe they still carry very few.


Nor do they they tell you when there have been replies to a thread ....... only if someone sends you a pm does GR send you an email to say there is a message waiting.

However, once you realise that you have to look at the left of the screen to the heading Tools, and within that box to My Threads, and that you have to click on My Threads to get a listing of ALL threads you have started or on which you have posted ....... then I think the Community Boards work very well indeed.


Nor do they tell you that all the help provided on the site is provided by other members using their own subscriptions on other sites!!



sylvia
who was born and grew up in Oldham! (not near Sholver Lane though!!)