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Trying to trace Joseph Dulson Shropshire married to Ellen they married in 1863
in 1871 they had 2 grandchildren with them Sarah and Martha Williams I am also looking for a connection for the girls the girls mothers name was Christianna Williams and she died 1869 there was no name on the girls birth certs of a father. Any help would be great.

Regards
Val

for reference:-

Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%)
DULSON Joseph Wem 6a 1277
EVANSON Ellen Wem 6a 1277

Thanks
I thought it was something along those lines
had it in my head it was everson so unable to find.Will get marriage cert will say who his parents were or his dad anyway.
The other part is still mystifying though the grandchildren.
Regards
Val

I'm having trouble finding them in 1871 census.
Could you give a bit more info on Joseph, his date and place of birth, and where were they living in 1871?

Same for the two girls??

Did you mean the 1871 census? I can't find them. You say they married in 1863 but had grandaughters in 1871?

1891 census
Prees, Shropshire
Joseph Dulson, head, 75, ag lab
Ellen, wife, 79
Elizabeth, dau, 34, dressmaker
Martha E. Williams, grandau, 23, dressmaker
Eleanor I. Hough, grandau, 2
All born Prees except Joseph born Ash.

Hang on. Found them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1871
Name: Joseph Dalson
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Prees
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Occupation:

Registration district: Wem
Sub registration district: Prees
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Dalson 14 - 1857 - born: Prees, Shropshire
(Relation: Daughter )
Ellen Dalson 55 -1816 - born: Prees, Shropshire
Joseph Dalson 53
Matha Williams 5 - 1866 - born: Whitchurch, Shropshire
Sarah Williams 4 - 1867 - born: Prees, Shropshire

Ah, the name's transcribed Dalson in 1871:
Prees, Shropshire
Joseph Dulson, head, 53, ag lab, born Whitchurch
Ellen, wife, 55, born Prees
Elizabeth, dau, 14, born Prees
Martha William, grandau, 5, born Whitchurch
Sarah Williams, grandau, 4, born Prees

You beat me to it, Catherine!

Hi
The Joseph I have is born 1815 on 1881 cencus cant find on 1871 as membership expired says his wife is Ellen but that would have made him 50 odd when he married Ellen he has Eliz Dulson 24 and Sarah Williams 14 but on the 1871 the both girls were there unless I am going mad!! with family.
Val

Maybe he was married before!!

Problem! He's already married to Ellen on the 1861 census (Mistranscribed Dubson)
Willaston Lawn, Township of Willaston, Sandford, Shropshire
Joseph Dulson, head, 47, ag lab
Ellen, wife, 49
Elizabeth, dau, 4
William Dickin, lodger, 28, ag lab
All born Prees except Joseph born Whitchurch.

Gets even odder with marriage in 1863

Married to Ellen in 1851, too, (mistranscribed Dalson)
Willaston, Shropshire
Joseph Dulson, head, 37, ag lab, born Whitchurch
Ellen, wife, 39, born Prees
John, son, 9, born Prees
Sarah, dau, 5, born Whitchurch
Samuel Forks, visitor, 19, born Whitchurch
Ann Hand, visitor, 4, born Whitchurch

Joseph in 1861:-

Name: Joseph Dubson
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandford
Ecclesiastical parish: Calverhall Holy Trinity
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Occupation: Ag. Labourer

Registration district: Wem
Sub registration district: Prees
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
William Dickin 28
Elizabeth Dubson 4 - 1857 - born: Prees, Shropshire
Ellen Dubson 49 - 1812 - born: Prees, Shropshire
Joseph Dubson 47

Married to Ellen???

Here's another possible marriage:-

Marriages Mar 1841 (>99%)
Cottom Thomas Wem 18 244
Dulstone Joseph Wem 18 244
HALES Henry Wem &c 18 244
Higgins Fanny Wem &c 18 244
Johnson Elizabeth Wem &c 18 244
MILLINGTON Ellen Wem &c 18 244

This must be the birth for Elizabeth:-

Births Sep 1856 (98%)
Dulson Elizabeth Wem 6a 638

If you buy the certificate this will give you her mothers maiden name!!

I wonder if he had a son called Joseph?
If so, then maybe it's his marriage in 1863?

There is a birth for a Joseph:-
Births Sep 1844 (>99%)
Dulson Joseph Wem 18 191

so could be possible?

Also an ellen strange couldbe a possible

I still can't understand how the Williams girls can be grandchildren. Valerie, you said their mother was Christianna Williams with no father named so Williams must have been her maiden name?