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Liz

Liz Report 31 Jan 2011 12:35

I've been trying to trace back my fathers side of the family, I know that my Grandfather was Harry Thomas Divall but that's about all I have

I can find no information regarding his parents or possible siblings though. A lot of people have this Harry listed, incorrectly I believe, as being born 1919/1923 in Brighton area however using his marriage details I found out he was born in Dartford in 1897, married Joy Titchener (my paternal grandmother) in 1945 then died 1967. I understand he was also in the army, Royal West Kent Regiment, discharged in 1919??

I've searched everywhere I know of & have spent more money than I can afford on various genealogy websites and keep hitting a wall.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Liz Divall

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jan 2011 12:42

lots of Harry Divall's in Brighton but none for that date

stacks in Kent too, but again, none for that date

Liz

Liz Report 31 Jan 2011 12:44

Yep, same issue I'm havign. Sadly my Nanny Joy passed away in '89 and my father has no details on his father either.

I thought as he'd been in the army he'd have been a little easier to trace!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Jan 2011 12:45

Henry Thomas Divall

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Fawkham, Kent, England
parents: Charles Divall, Frances

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Henry Thomas Divall
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 28 Jun 1903
baptism/christening place: Fawkham, Kent, England
father's name: Charles Divall
mother's name: Frances
indexing project (batch) number: C02327-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

Flick

Flick Report 31 Jan 2011 12:46

His parents will be named on the birth cert.....£9.25 on line from the GRO

Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
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Divall Harry Thomas Dartford 2a 550


His father (if known) will be named on the marriage cert

Name: Harry T Divall
Spouse Surname: Titchener
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1945
Registration district: Tonbridge
Registration county (inferred): Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 3381
Find Spouse: Find Spouse


The age at death fits the birth........

Name: Harry T Divall
Death Registration Month/Year: 1967
Age at death (estimated): 70
Registration district: Tonbridge
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5f
Page: 797

Julie

Julie Report 31 Jan 2011 12:46

Hi B/C will give you his parents names

Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
Divall Harry Thomas Dartford 2a 550

& it might be best to say that Joys name was Evelyn Joy

Births Dec 1907 (>99%)
TITCHENER Evelyn Joyce Sevenoaks 2a 784

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 31 Jan 2011 12:48

could you post the marriage details
addresses
occupations
fathers names etc
anplaces

also any other details you have

it is very difficult whem you are conviced that others are wrong and they have more experience than you so you need to find proof.

Liz

Liz Report 31 Jan 2011 12:51

Hi Flick, thanks for that - those are the details I used to trace his dates
.
I have traced Evelyn/ Joy titcheners family back without any issues -

Ann, your info seems to tally nicely with the info I've been searching for, I did search for the variant henry a whole ago but it dodn't cross my mind since getting more details! I'll do some more digging with that info.

Thanks again everyone!!! :-)

Julie

Julie Report 31 Jan 2011 12:53

i wasn't saying you hadn't.......you need to state the correct info so that people can help

As you can see neither i or anyone else have gone off looking for more info on Evelyn

Abby

Abby Report 31 Jan 2011 12:55

????

County Kent
Place Fawkham
Church St. Mary the Virgin
RegisterNumber 768
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 28 Jun 1903
Forename Harry Thomas
Sex M
FatherForename Charles
MotherForename Frances
FatherSurname DIVALL
MotherSurname
Abode Six Acres
FatherOccupation Labourer
Notes
FileNumber 11593

Barbara

Barbara Report 31 Jan 2011 12:57

HIs service record is on ancestry. It states parents names as Charles Frederick and mother Francis. Living in Swanley? Kent.

If you do not have a subscription perhaps somebody could download each image (it has to be done and saved to computer separately. There are about 9 pages or so.

Flick

Flick Report 31 Jan 2011 12:57

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

Name: Harry Thomas Divall
Birth County: Kent
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 10496
Regiment Name: RW Kent
Number of Images: 14

DOB 28/07/1896.may have fibbed, as he would have been under-age!

Address on discharge
5, Home Farm Cottages
St Paul's Cray
Kent

FATHER: Charles Frederick
MOTHER: Frances

Liz

Liz Report 31 Jan 2011 13:03

Sorry, I've never really done any of this before.

Thanks again everyone for your help, i think Jule, Ann & safc are the closest as Charles/Frances details seem to tally with the location/dates.

Thankyou for all your help! I should have come here earlier!

Flick

Flick Report 31 Jan 2011 13:04

1911

Person: DIVALL, Charles
Address: Six Acre Cottages Fawkham Longfield Kent

Cost:
You will be charged 10 credits for a transcript and 30 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.



DIVALL, Charles Head Married M 46 1865 Waggoner On Farm Kent Chatham VIEW
DIVALL, Francis Wife Married
25 years F 45 1866 Kent Swanley VIEW
DIVALL, Frederick Son Single M 22 1889 Farm Labourer Kent Swanley VIEW
DIVALL, May Daughter Single F 19 1892 Kent Crokenhill VIEW
DIVALL, Bertha Daughter Single F 17 1894 Domestic Servant Kent Crokenhill VIEW
DIVALL, Arthur Son Single M 15 1896 Farm Labourer Kent Crokenhill VIEW
DIVALL, Harray Son M 13 1898 Farm Labourer Kent Horton Kirby VIEW
DIVALL, William Son Single M 11 1900 At School Kent Farninghan VIEW
DIVALL, Sidney Son M 9 1902 At School Kent Highan VIEW
DIVALL, Edith Daughter F 7 1904 At School Kent Fawkham VIEW
DIVALL, Maud Daughter F 4 1907 Kent Fawkhan VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3807 Reference:
RG14PN3807 RG78PN144 RD43 SD4 ED14 SN23

Liz

Liz Report 31 Jan 2011 13:04

Thanks everyone, i've subscribed to so many sites I can't afford any more so will try and find an alt way of geting them!

Flick

Flick Report 31 Jan 2011 13:07

1901

Name: Bertha Dinall
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Fredrik Dinall
Mother's name: Francis Dinall
Gender: Female
Where born: Crockenhill, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Higham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Strood
Sub-registration district: Strood
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Fredrik Dinall 35
Francis Dinall 34
Frederick Dinall 12
Bertha Dinall 7
Arthur J Dinall 5
Harry J Dinall 3
William G Dinall 1

Corrections posted on Ancestry

Flick

Flick Report 31 Jan 2011 13:10

1891

Name: Fredk Divall
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's name: Fredk Divall
Mother's name: Frances Divall
Gender: Male
Where born: Swanley, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Sutton At Hone
Ecclesiastical parish: Crockenhill St Paul
Town: Swanley Junction
County/Island: Kent
Country: England


Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Fredk Divall 25
Frances Divall 24
Fredk Divall 2


Flick

Flick Report 31 Jan 2011 13:12


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Marriages Mar 1887 (>99%)
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DIVALL Frederick Charles Dartford 2a 523
Killick Frances Dartford 2a 523


Now, Liz, you can look for these people on the 1881 census...it is FREE

www.familysearch.org

Flick

Flick Report 31 Jan 2011 13:14

1871......?????

Name: Frances Killick
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Elizabeth Killick
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Farningham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Farningham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 81
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Killick 45
Henny Killick 21
Dennis Killick 19
Emma Killick 15
Maria Killick 11
Mary Killick 9
Arthur Killick 7
Frances Killick 4

If you invest £9.25 in the marriage cert, you'll get confirmation of the names of both fatherss..................

Flick

Flick Report 31 Jan 2011 13:17

1871

Name: Charles F Diball
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's name: Reuben Diball
Gender: Male
Where born: Chatham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Chatham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Chatham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Rochester
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Reuben Diball 39
James Robert Diball 10
Charles F Diball 5
Caroline Larue 29