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Marlene
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1 Sep 2009 12:18 |
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Mary Ann Dickinson born between 1838 and 1847.Father Thomas Dickinson .Mary married Thomas Hampson in 1864 . Trying to find her exact birth date Mary was born I think in Wigan lancashire . From Marlene Sawyer
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1 Sep 2009 12:23 |
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The marriage...
Marriages Mar 1864 Dickinson Mary Ann Leigh 8c 193 Hampson Thomas Leigh 8c 193
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LiverBird1
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1 Sep 2009 12:27 |
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1871 for ref
Name: Mary A Hampson Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Gender: Female Where born: Hindley, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Hindley Ecclesiastical parish: Hindley St Peter Town: Hindley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Hindley ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Hampson 24 Mary A Hampson 34 Elizabeth Hampson 1 William Chimall 20 Elizabeth Chimall 24 Lydia Unsworth 34 View original image Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3890; Folio: 4; Page: 2; GSU roll: 842039
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1 Sep 2009 12:30 |
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These births the only way would be to send for certs and to eliminate it down have Thomas as a checking point.
Births Mar 1838 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DICKINSON Mary Wigan 21 742
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1840 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dickinson Mary Wigan 21 717
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1842 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dickinson Mary Wigan 21 695
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1843 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DICKINSON Mary Wigan 21 713
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1846 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dickinson Mary Wigan 21 807
Or if you send for the marriage cert it shoud give you an idea as to her birth on her marriage cert you could then eliminate it down from there.
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Marlene
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11 Aug 2011 11:50 |
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Have now received the death Certificate of mary A Hampson nee Dickinson . She died on April 1915 aged 73 Years. So according to that she was born in 1841 .I have birth cerificates from 1838/40/42/45 .On Mary's marriage certificate her father was Thomas Hampson ,unfortunately none of the birth certificates have his Name as the father .I also have the 1911 census which states that mary Ann Hampson was 70 years old .which means she was born in 1841 , cannot find a birth for her in that year. .Any help would be greatly appreciated marlene Sawyer
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Potty
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11 Aug 2011 12:06 |
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What is her father's occupation on her marriage cert?
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ellieathome
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11 Aug 2011 12:08 |
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You can't rely on ages given at that time. Up to 5Years either way is possible.
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11 Aug 2011 12:17 |
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1861 Name: Mary Ann Dickenson Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Thomas Dickenson Mother's name: Alice Dickenson Gender: Female Where born: Leigh, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Pennington Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Leigh County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Leigh Sub-registration district: West Leigh ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 26 Piece: 2803 Folio: 53 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Dickenson 43 Alice Dickenson 47 Mary Ann Dickenson 20 Alice Dickenson 18 Ellen Dickenson 10 Harriet Dickenson 8 Elizabeth Dickenson 5 Jane Dickenson 7 MO
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11 Aug 2011 12:22 |
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1851 Name: Mary Ann Dickenson Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Thomas Dickenson Mother's name: Alice Dickenson Gender: F (Female) Where born: Westleigh, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Westleigh Ecclesiastical parish: Leigh Town: Leigh County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Leigh Sub-registration district: West Leigh ED, institution, or vessel: 2c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 152 Piece: 2205 Folio: 212 Page Number: 45 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Dickenson 33 Alice Dickenson 37 Mary Ann Dickenson 10 Alice Dickenson 8 John Dickenson 6 Jane Dickenson 4 Ellen Dickenson 8 MO
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11 Aug 2011 12:50 |
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Name: Mary Dickinson Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1842 Registration district: Leigh Inferred County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 21 Page: 445 (click to see others on page)
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ellieathome
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11 Aug 2011 13:01 |
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Name: Thomas Dickinson Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1838 Registration district: Wigan Inferred County: Lancashire Volume Number: 21 Page Number: 493 (click to see others on page)
Alice Hodson Oct-Nov-Dec 1838 Wigan Lancashire
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ellieathome
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11 Aug 2011 13:02 |
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ALICE HODSON Christening: 04 MAR 1815 Leigh, Lancashire, England Father: DAVID HODSON Family Mother: MARY
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ellieathome
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11 Aug 2011 13:17 |
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I'm finding Ellen and Alice registered at Chorley,but can't find Mary Ann !!!!!
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Marlene
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12 Aug 2011 14:54 |
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Thanks for all the emails . Potty asked the occupation of the father Thomas Dickinson , he was a Loomer at the time of mary Ann's marriage . If I take Mary Ann as being born in 1842 on that certificate there is no father's name .and yet on the 1841 census mary ann is on with father as Thomas and Mother Elizabeth . Like you say sometimes 5 years either way,yet you would think that on a death cetificate the age might be right .On the 1901 and 1911 it states that she was born 1841 . Marlene
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Potty
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25 Aug 2011 14:12 |
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Marlene, relationships are not shown on the 1841 - can you please post the 1841 that you think is Mary?
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Potty
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25 Aug 2011 14:15 |
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The marriage that ellie posted - that Thomas married Margaret Halliwell (from Lancsbmd).
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Potty
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25 Aug 2011 14:33 |
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This Thomas married an Alice:
DICKINSON Thomas HOUGHTON Alice Leigh St. Mary's Wigan & Leigh
Marriages Mar 1843 (>99%) DICKENSON Thomas Leigh 21 333
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1840 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HOUGHTON Mary Ann Lowton Wigan & Leigh HOUGHTON
1841 England Census about Mary Ann Houghton Name: Mary Ann Houghton Age: 7 MO Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Gender: Female Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Leigh Hundred: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Leigh Sub-registration district: Lowton Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 513 Book: 14 Folio: 16 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Betty Houghton 50 Alice Houghton 25 Ellen Houghton 20 Elizabeth Houghton 15 James Houghton 2 Mary Ann Houghton 7 MO
Could this be Alice, aged 8 in 1851:
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1843 DICKINSON Alice Lowton Wigan & Leigh HOUGHTON LOW/4/338
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Potty
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25 Aug 2011 14:43 |
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Lancsbmd also has the following Dickinson births, with MMN Houghton:
John Dickinson 1844 Jane 1846
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25 Aug 2011 14:49 |
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which means that this could be Mary Ann Dickinson - born before her mother married
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1840 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HOUGHTON Mary Ann Lowton Wigan & Leigh HOUGHTON LOW/3/8
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Marlene
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26 Aug 2011 13:31 |
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Thanks Potty and LancashireAnn. On my tree I have a Thomas Dickinson married to an Elizabeth and children and Mary ann , Samuel and Sarah Looks like I will have to rethink the marriage of Thomas .When Mary Ann got married the witness for her was Alice Dickinson . I have found a few Alice Dickinson's who could be the witness but could also be her mother. There are two births for Mary Ann Houghton for Dec 1840 on lancashire/births . I will send for the birth certificate of John Dickinson 1844 then I can see who the father is .
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