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Marlene

Marlene Report 1 Sep 2009 12:18

Mary Ann Dickinson born between 1838 and 1847.Father Thomas Dickinson .Mary married Thomas Hampson in 1864 .
Trying to find her exact birth date
Mary was born I think in Wigan lancashire .
From
Marlene Sawyer

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 1 Sep 2009 12:23

The marriage...

Marriages Mar 1864
Dickinson Mary Ann Leigh 8c 193
Hampson Thomas Leigh 8c 193


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LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 1 Sep 2009 12:27

1871 for ref

Name: Mary A Hampson
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Hindley, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Hindley
Ecclesiastical parish: Hindley St Peter
Town: Hindley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Hampson 24
Mary A Hampson 34
Elizabeth Hampson 1
William Chimall 20
Elizabeth Chimall 24
Lydia Unsworth 34



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Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3890; Folio: 4; Page: 2; GSU roll: 842039


cassy

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 1 Sep 2009 12:30

These births the only way would be to send for certs and to eliminate it down have Thomas as a checking point.

Births Mar 1838 (>99%)
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DICKINSON Mary Wigan 21 742

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Births Dec 1840 (>99%)
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Dickinson Mary Wigan 21 717

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Births Sep 1842 (>99%)
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Dickinson Mary Wigan 21 695

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Births Sep 1843 (>99%)
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DICKINSON Mary Wigan 21 713

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Births Sep 1846 (>99%)
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Dickinson Mary Wigan 21 807

Or if you send for the marriage cert it shoud give you an idea as to her birth on her marriage cert you could then eliminate it down from there.

Marlene

Marlene Report 11 Aug 2011 11:50

Have now received the death Certificate of mary A Hampson nee Dickinson .
She died on April 1915 aged 73 Years.
So according to that she was born in 1841 .I have birth cerificates from 1838/40/42/45 .On Mary's marriage certificate her father was Thomas Hampson ,unfortunately none of the birth certificates have his Name as the father .I also have the 1911 census which states that mary Ann Hampson was 70 years old .which means she was born in 1841 , cannot find a birth for her in that year.
.Any help would be greatly appreciated
marlene Sawyer

Potty

Potty Report 11 Aug 2011 12:06

What is her father's occupation on her marriage cert?

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Aug 2011 12:08

You can't rely on ages given at that time. Up to 5Years either way is possible.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Aug 2011 12:17

1861
Name: Mary Ann Dickenson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Dickenson
Mother's name: Alice Dickenson
Gender: Female
Where born: Leigh, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Pennington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Leigh
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: West Leigh
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Piece: 2803
Folio: 53
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Dickenson 43
Alice Dickenson 47
Mary Ann Dickenson 20
Alice Dickenson 18
Ellen Dickenson 10
Harriet Dickenson 8
Elizabeth Dickenson 5
Jane Dickenson 7 MO


ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Aug 2011 12:22

1851
Name: Mary Ann Dickenson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Dickenson
Mother's name: Alice Dickenson
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Westleigh, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Westleigh
Ecclesiastical parish: Leigh
Town: Leigh
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: West Leigh
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 152
Piece: 2205
Folio: 212
Page Number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Dickenson 33
Alice Dickenson 37
Mary Ann Dickenson 10
Alice Dickenson 8
John Dickenson 6
Jane Dickenson 4
Ellen Dickenson 8 MO


ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Aug 2011 12:50

Name: Mary Dickinson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1842
Registration district: Leigh
Inferred County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 21
Page: 445 (click to see others on page)

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Aug 2011 13:01

Name: Thomas Dickinson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1838
Registration district: Wigan
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 21
Page Number: 493 (click to see others on page)

Alice Hodson Oct-Nov-Dec 1838 Wigan Lancashire

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Aug 2011 13:02

ALICE HODSON
Christening: 04 MAR 1815 Leigh, Lancashire, England
Father: DAVID HODSON Family
Mother: MARY

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 11 Aug 2011 13:17

I'm finding Ellen and Alice registered at Chorley,but can't find Mary Ann !!!!!

Marlene

Marlene Report 12 Aug 2011 14:54

Thanks for all the emails .
Potty asked the occupation of the father Thomas Dickinson , he was a Loomer at the time of mary Ann's marriage .
If I take Mary Ann as being born in 1842 on that certificate there is no father's name .and yet on the 1841 census mary ann is on with father as Thomas and Mother Elizabeth .
Like you say sometimes 5 years either way,yet you would think that on a death cetificate the age might be right .On the 1901 and 1911 it states that she was born 1841 .
Marlene

Potty

Potty Report 25 Aug 2011 14:12

Marlene, relationships are not shown on the 1841 - can you please post the 1841 that you think is Mary?

Potty

Potty Report 25 Aug 2011 14:15

The marriage that ellie posted - that Thomas married Margaret Halliwell (from Lancsbmd).

Potty

Potty Report 25 Aug 2011 14:33

This Thomas married an Alice:

DICKINSON Thomas HOUGHTON Alice Leigh St. Mary's Wigan & Leigh

Marriages Mar 1843 (>99%)
DICKENSON Thomas Leigh 21 333

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1840
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HOUGHTON Mary Ann Lowton Wigan & Leigh HOUGHTON

1841 England Census
about Mary Ann Houghton
Name: Mary Ann Houghton
Age: 7 MO
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Leigh
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: Lowton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 513
Book: 14
Folio: 16
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Betty Houghton 50
Alice Houghton 25
Ellen Houghton 20
Elizabeth Houghton 15
James Houghton 2
Mary Ann Houghton 7 MO

Could this be Alice, aged 8 in 1851:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1843
DICKINSON Alice Lowton Wigan & Leigh HOUGHTON LOW/4/338



Potty

Potty Report 25 Aug 2011 14:43

Lancsbmd also has the following Dickinson births, with MMN Houghton:

John Dickinson 1844
Jane 1846

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 25 Aug 2011 14:49

which means that this could be Mary Ann Dickinson - born before her mother married

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1840
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HOUGHTON Mary Ann Lowton Wigan & Leigh HOUGHTON LOW/3/8

Marlene

Marlene Report 26 Aug 2011 13:31

Thanks Potty and LancashireAnn.
On my tree I have a Thomas Dickinson married to an Elizabeth and children and Mary ann , Samuel and Sarah
Looks like I will have to rethink the marriage of Thomas .When Mary Ann got married the witness for her was Alice Dickinson .
I have found a few Alice Dickinson's who could be the witness but could also be her mother.
There are two births for Mary Ann Houghton for Dec 1840 on lancashire/births .
I will send for the birth certificate of John Dickinson 1844 then I can see who the father is .