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I know nothing about Francis other than he had a son William(1828) born in Alkman, Derbyshire. I believe Frances was born in Alrewas, Staffordshire. On William's marriage cert it stated Francis was a tailor. Any help would be appreciated.

I do not think he was born in Derbyshire I think he was born in Staffordshire.

1841 census.


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DICKEN, Francis M 40 Derbyshire
DICKEN, Mary F 40 Derbyshire
DICKEN, Frederick M 15 Derbyshire
DICKEN, Henry M 15 Derbyshire
DICKEN, William M 13 Derbyshire
DICKEN, Emily F 10 Derbyshire
DICKEN, John M 8 Derbyshire
DICKEN, James M 5 Derbyshire
DICKEN, Selina F 1 Derbyshire

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
199 Book/Folio:
5/33 Page:
14

Registration District:
Derby Sub District:
St Alkmund EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Alkmund Municipal Borough:
Derby Address:
Derwent Row, St Alkmund, Derby County:
Derbyshire

Francis is a tailor.

1841 census??

1841 England Census
about Francis Dickin
Name: Francis Dickin
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: St Michael
Hundred: Lichfield
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Lichfield
Sub registration district: Lichfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Dickin 1
Elizabeth Dickin 35
Emma Dickin 5
Francis Dickin 33
Francis Dickin 4
Louisa Dickin 8
Sarah Dickin 12
Thomas Dickin 14
William Dickin 10

Lindylu that looks promising. Thank you.

1851

1851 England Census
about Francis Dicken
Name: Francis Dicken
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Alrewas, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Lichfield St Michael
Town: Lichfield
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Lichfield
Sub registration district: Lichfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 18a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Dicken 9
Catherine Dicken 11
Elizabeth Dicken 44
Francis Dicken 46
Francis Dicken 13

1851 census - Lichfield

Greenhill

Francis Dicken - head - 46 - cabinet maker - Alrewas, Staffs.
Elizabeth Dicken - wife - 44 - Alrewas, Staffs.
Francis Dicken - son - 13 - scholar - Lichfield
Catherine Dicken - dau - 11 - scholar - Lichfield
Alfred Dicken - son - 9 - scholar - Lichfield

No William with them though

Christening?

FRANCIS DICKEN
Male
Christening: 19 FEB 1804 All Saints, Alrewas, Stafford, England
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM DICKEN Family
Mother: MARY

The Francis Dicken in Staffordshire is a cabinet maker.....not a tailor, so Derbyshire one more likely to be correct?

Lindylu you have found him well done. Thanks to all who have answered due to you I have more info.

I am sorry........how can the Staffordshire family be correct? If you have a certificate which states Francis as a tailor....then the Derbyshire family is more likely to be the right one.

So there appears to be two Francis Dickins born about the same time, both with a son William. The Francis born in Staffordshire is a cabinet maker with his William born in Staffordshire, and the Francis born in Derbyshire is a tailor, with his William born in Derbyshire. Do you think you may have accidently crossed over families?

Carol, If you are sure that the person you are looking for was born in Alrewus, Staffordshire then he was not a tailor but a cabinet maker.

Which in turn means that you have the incorrect marriage cert for William.

I am sure William married Lucy Beck in 1859 Coventry. It does state Frances was a tailor. I wounder if I have my lines crossed as to where frances was born.

I think they may have crossed Carol, best to start again with what you definetley know otherwise it will be a nightmare to sort out later.

I am sure on William but back to the drawing board with Francis.

Just realised about the family from Derbyshire on the 1841 census. Elouise has found the same family in 1851 and it states that Francis was born in Staffordshire! Burton-on-Blut.

I have tried to find them on the 1841 cencus but with no joy. Why can I not find them when you can?

In 1841, birth places are not recorded....just Yes or No as to whether they were born in the county. It is perfectly likely that the enumerator could have assumed (wrongly) that Francis was born in Derbyshire.