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Info I have-Joseph Dey Born C1805 died 30 Apr 1880 buried Crediton Churchyard Devon Wifes name Lucy
Born c1813 died July 1849 aged 36 buried Woodhouse Cemetery Leeds York.
Possible other children Louisa Eleanor, Eliza Temple.
Known Child Emma Dey married Joseph Cornish who was born c1829 died 4th August 1889 buried Wesleyan Churchyard Horrabridge Devon
Joseph and Emma my Great Grandparents.
Elsie

Do you have 1841 info?

This may be them:

Name: Lucy Dey
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradford
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford West End

Household Members:
Name Age
Emma Dey 4
Joseph Dey 35
Lucy Dey 25

If so, then 1851 info:

Name: Emma Dey
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 2dd

Household schedule number: 56
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Dey 25 niece b Wakefield, cloth burler
Emma Dey 13 Domestic servant
Joseph Dey 46 Dyer b Wakefield
Sophia Dey 7

Living in Tilneys Yard (in the area between Queen Street and Wellington Street in West Leeds)

[Ed to add details from the image]

Dear Ivy,
It certainly sounds like the right family.
Family story had a connection with Leeds
only some of the stories have been wide of the mark as well so I had not put too much store in them.
I had tried a few years ago to pick them up on the sensus but got no matches.
Thank you very much.I live in west Australia so I'm a fair way from the places
I'm trying to research.
regards Elsie

Dear Melanie,
Well the ages work out right but now I'm totally confused as I was always told that the Dey family came from Leeds.
All the details I had were extracts from a family bible that my late cousin had sent to me about 15 years ago.All that I know is the owner of the bible was a cousin to my mother.Thank you very much.
Regards Elsie

Hi Melanie, Elsie,

Excellent family to research - both north and south of the UK!

Since Emma is 4 in 1841, it looked like the marriage would probably have been before 1837, so I tried the IGI (Joseph Dey to Lucy, 1832 to 1836, Yorkshire). This marriage was the only suggestion:

1. JOSEPH DEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 09 DEC 1832 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

Encouragingly, it's Wakefield, but Lucy is Metcalf rather than Temple.

The births to Joseph Dey and Lucy simply line up with the census returns:

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1. Emma Dey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 01 MAY 1837 Leeds, Yorkshire, England

2. Sophia Dey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: About 1840 Leeds, Yorkshire, England (1851 census suggests s/be 1844)

- but these are not baptisms extracted from the parish registers, they are submitted records.

The submitter states that Sophia died in 1950 (a good long life there, but possible!) and Emma on 18 August 1904.

It suggests that someone else has researched this tree - is there anything to be found from Googling the family?

This is Lucy's death registration, which matches the Bible entry (the only Lucy Day/Dey in Yorkshire between 1836 and 1856).

Name: Lucy Dey
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 23
Page: 588

Sophie's birth registration looks like it may be Bradford:

Name: Sophia Dey
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 23
Page: 131

I've just added details to the 1851 census posting on the first page. If Joseph married Thirza in Devon in 1854, then it looks like the 1851 to 1854 period is the one to concentrate on to make the connection. I can't get over what a long way it was to go. Melanie, Leeds was fairly industralised at that point (lots of cloth industries) - what was it like in Devon at that time?

Hi Melanie,

Just poaching on your territory to pick up Sophia in 1861 (I'm intrigued by this claim to be a centenarian):

Name: Sophia Dey
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitchurch
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Registration district: Tavistock
Sub-registration district: Tavistock
ED, institution, or vessel: 2

Household schedule number: 69
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Cornish 10 Mo
Eliza Sophia Cornish 2
Emma Cornish 24 miner's wife b Leeds
Joseph Cornish 32 Copper miner
Joseph Alfred Cornish 4
Lucy Mary Cornish 6
William Cornish 77
Sophia Dey 18 b Bradford Yorks, wool sorter

Not visible as Dey after 1861....

But there is just the one Soph* born in Bradford and living in Devon in 1871, 1881 and 1901 (something's amiss with 1891, clearly!)

Each time she is married to Samuel Nicholls and living in Lifton.

Have to log off soon, but would like to pick up the niece from Wakefield again if possible...

[Ed - not finding her easily...unless she married William Mayhew? - see 1891 Devon census?]

Hi Melanie,

Just snatching a moment to check out Dey references in Yorkshire in 1841 - they are spread quite widely. I'm hoping this one may be the niece - Ancestry missed treating the short form as a variant of Elizabeth:

Name: Elizh Dey
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Wakefield
Hundred: Agbrigg (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Wakefield

Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Dey 30
Elizh Dey 14
Ellin Dey 6
Jane Dey 8
Mary Ann Dey 15
Peter Dey 2
Sarah Ann Dey 10
Thomas Dey 40

I'm off to see if Thomas and Joseph might be on the IGI with the same parents?

A possible group of baptisms, all extracted from the same church (C133681) - may be different parents, though:

International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 8
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1. MARY DEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 DEC 1801 New Or Zion Independent, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
2. MARTHA DEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 DEC 1801 New Or Zion Independent, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
3. JOHN DAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 JUN 1796 New Or Zion Independent, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
4. THOMAS DAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 JUL 1797 New Or Zion Independent, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
5. GEORGE DEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 SEP 1803 New Or Zion Independent, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
6. JOSEPH DEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 JAN 1805 New Or Zion Independent, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
7. MICHAEL DEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 JAN 1807 New Or Zion Independent, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
8. THOMAS WILLIAM DEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 26 JAN 1800 New Or Zion Independent, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

- actually, they are all Thomas and Mary....and.....do we have twins again? It's usually late baptisms, with the vicar catching up with three at once, but might not be in this case!

Hi Melanie,

I'm pretty unsophisticated at the IGI. Yes, it's free. I Google (world search not UK) for FamilySearch (US based server) click the yellow search tab, and then International Genealogical Index on the LHS.

Search boxes to complete: forename/surname/date range (max +/- 20 years), Region British Isles, Country England, county Yorkshire.

Depending on how rare the name is (Dey is OK), you may find your family quite quickly (assuming that the Mormons have indexed that parish).

If you look for Joseph Dey, you'll find him at entry 13 (the first for Wakefield, although I meant to check out no 15 as well, although Day, at the main parish church).

Click on his name and look for the batch number at the foot of the sheet (if this is an extracted entry - it is) - ref C133681. Click that and you are back on your search page, but the ref is now in the final row of search boxes. Anything you put into your search boxes now is restricted to just that batch of extracted entries.

There is much more you can do with it - see the thread that GR have stickied set up by the fabled Olde Crone - at the top of Tips, I think.

Have fun, see you tomorrow

Hi Ivy,Melanie,
I finished going to bed last night(morning)
1.45am need match sticks today.What a lot of information you two have come up with my heartfelt thanks.Re twins the Joseph Cornish family there were two sets both boy/girl my grandmother Alice and Ernest and a set that only lived a few hours.The other one that looks like twins
amy(earl)/Esther was not, Amy Earl was a daughter of one of the older girls.It came down though my son has boy/girl twins will be 21on Tuesday.
I was told he could be twins early in the pregnancy and was braced for it but it was only him.Just as well.
I have been trying to trace decendants of Amy Earl I have details of her marriage, birth of first child,name and date of passage to vancouver Canada have tried twice over the years writing to family history groups with no luck So will shortly put it in with Genes R and see what happens.My mother used to write to Amy's two daughters.When my mother died I was 11 and this sort of connection was lost my father kept in touch with Mums parents and two sisters but not all the others.
I have been putting some of the other Cornish girls on the trying to find under their married names and names of their children when I know them.I will then add to the tree as I'm sure I have the details correct. Thank goodness for computers
Hope to keep in touch Elsie

Hi,
Still checking Dey Family
Looking for marriage of Emma Dey -Joseph Cornish-first child-Lucy Mary born
30-9-1854.
Death of Emma Cornish-(In 1891census a widow)
thanks Elsie

Hi Elsie

Has anyone seen Lucy Mary's birth certificate or baptism? The IGI has a submitted record (i.e. one to treat with caution) as being born to the couple in Horrabridge - but it strikes me that Emma is a little young to be Lucy's mother. Is Lucy the daughter of a previous wife of Joseph's?