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I am researching my INGRAM family tree. I have an Eliza Ingram born c.1866. In the 1901 census, Eliza is a widow living with Edith(12) and Lily(11). Also living with Eliza are her brother Richard Ingram(43), Albert Ingram(23) his wife Ruth(21) and their three children.
Address: 14 Manchester Road, Hammersmith.
I am trying to find information about Eliza's husband and family. Does anyone recognise the names Eliza, Edith or Lily Delieu?

You say Eliza's brother Richard Ingram is living with her on the 1901 census but if she was married then Ingram would be her married name not her maiden name??
Have you looked for birth certs , Edith & Lily should have been registered and their cert should name her parents

Hello Shirley,

Ingram was Eliza's maiden name. I haven't checked birth records, should have done ! Thanks, I will start there.

Delieu is not a name I have come across before.

looking at the census she is Eliza Delieu not Ingram (but thats not clear either)
thay have transcribed the name as Debien
Name: Richard Ingram
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Kensington, London, England

Civil parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Latimer Road
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: North Hammersmith (including Starch Green)
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 306
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Debien 35
Edith Debien 12
Lily Debien 11
Richard Ingram 43


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 44; Folio: 28; Page: 48.

Hi Shirley,

Thankyou. I printed off a copy of the Census 1901 off the Genes site. I thought name looked like Debien, I will start looking for birth records of Edith and Lily.

It is only after looking at the 1871 census for Richard's parents, that I discovered a few more siblings.

on the 1911 censu she is Dulien
DULIEN, ELIZA HEAD WIDOW F 45 PACKER AND PORTER NOTTING HILL
DULIEN, EDITH DAUGHTER SINGEL F 22 PACKER AND PORTER NOTTING HILL
DULIEN, LILY DAUGHTER SINGLE F 20 PACKER AND PORTER NOTTING HILL
INGRAM, RICHARD BROTHER SINGLE M 53 POINTER OLD KENT RD

Address 56 SILCHESTER ROAD N KENSINGTON County London
District Kensington Subdistrict Kensington North
Enumeration District 2 Parish Kensington

PHEW after a lot of searching got Edith !!
Births Sep 1888
DULIEU Edith Ann Kensington 1a 130

Cant find Lily or a marriage but that cert will help

wonder who this one is
Births Sep 1889
Dulieu Annie Elizabeth Kensington 1a 105

wonder if this is Lily in a round about way Elzabeth pet name is Lillybet maybe then shortened to Lily?? Maybe !!


ORRR maybe more likely

Births Sep 1890
Dulieu Gertrude Lily Kensington 1a 111

Whats the betting this is hubby

Deaths Mar 1892
Dulieu Alfred 32 Kensington 1a 94

Here they are on the 1891 census and thers another child
Name: Alfred Duliess (its Dulieu on the actual page)
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Kensington, London, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Helens
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:13 Mancshester Road

Occupation:Laundreyman

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Duliess 30
Eliza Duliess 26 b Southwark occ Laundress
Daisy Duliess 4
Edith Duliess 3
Lily Duliess 1



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 23; Folio 190; Page 55; GSU roll: 6095133.

Daisy maybe
Births Sep 1887

DULIEU Elizabeth Daisy Kensington 1a 112

Hi Shirley,

WOW! Thankyou so much, in between cooking dinner I have been looking at birth records. You are obviously way quicker than I am. I will check ou the info you have given me.

I come from two parents who know nothing much of their family history. It is like pulling teeth trying to find info. My leads to date have come through hot matches.

Thanks again.

Susan

Births and deaths Dulieu
Births Jun 1883 (>99%)
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DULIEU Bertz Kensington 1a 128

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Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
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Dulieu Lucy Kensington 1a 103

Deaths Jun 1885

Dulieu Lucy 0 Kensington 1a 82

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Births Jun 1886

Dulieu Alfred Kensington 1a 182

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Births Sep 1887 (>99%)
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DULIEU Elizabeth Daisy Kensington 1a 112

Deaths Mar 1895

Dulieu Elizabeth Daisy 7 Kensington 1a 157


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Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
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DULIEU Edith Ann Kensington 1a 130

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Births Sep 1889 (>99%)
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Dulieu Annie Elizabeth Kensington 1a 105

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Births Sep 1890 (>99%)
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Dulieu Gertrude Lily Kensington 1a 111

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Births Sep 1893 (>99%)
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Dulieu Florence May Kensington 1a 104

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Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Dulieu Daisy Kensington 1a 103

Interesting: 1891 census 13 Manchester Street, 1901 census 14 Manchester Sreet, or just a typo?

That is a lot of Delieu's. That will certainly fill in a few gaps in the Eliza branch of the tree.

One sibling down,

My thanks again to yo Shirley. I don't seem to get past being a novice at this game. How do you get to the 1911 census?

I have checked a copy of the 1901 census. I have found a Frederick Dulieu(35), Mary Ann (31), Annie(12) Florence May(8) Daisy(6) Frederick(1). These are not the Delieu's I am looking for. Possibly relations to Eliza Delieu.

Hi
www.fmpbsol.1911census.co.uk

its free to search but a bit costly to view the info you have to buy credits.

Transcripts cost 10 credits each and original pages cost 30 credits for the set of images.
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OOuch. I will keep plodding for now, it is easy to spend a fortune isn't it. My direct line is Eliza's brother Albert (1878).

I appreciate your reply, take care

Susan

double checked the address on the 1891 census and I missed the transition from 13 to 14 Manchester Road .
The correct address is14 so they are at the same address as the 1901 census,
incidently the Ingram family ie dad Richard etc are at thesame address.
1891 census
Name: Richard Ingram
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Husband
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Margate, Kent, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Helens
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:14 Manchester Road

Occupation:Builder and Constructor

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Ingram 57
Eliza Ingram 55 b Southwark
Richard Ingram 34 b Southwark occ Bricklayer
Edwin Ingram 24 b Southwark occ Bricklayer
Francis Ingram 20 b Kensington
James Ingram 18 ditto
Henry Ingram 14 ditto
Albert Ingram 13 ditto
Louisa Ingram 11 ditto



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 23; Folio 190; Page 55; GSU roll: 6095133.