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Can someone please find a William Collin or Collins on the 1851/61 Census. He is on the 1871 census as being 30yrs. old - I am trying to find his parents there is a possibility that his father is named Richard Collin(s), Mother Mary.
In 1871 the family was living in Bury, Lancashire - William was married to Phillis.
Many thanks, Denise

1851?

Name: William Collins
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Great Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Bolton
Sub registration district: Bolton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 1j
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 128
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Collins 50
William Collins 11
Thomas Vickers 18
Thomas Flitcroft 28
Mary Ann Monks 22
Richard Monks 1

1861?

Name: William Collins
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Great Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Bolton
Sub registration district: Bolton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Collins 60
William Collins 21
William Morris 22

Thanks Richard,
This could certainly be him - Is his mother a widow?

Denise

Mother is a widow in 1861, occupation nurse. William is a labourer in iron foundry. They're living on Bridgeman St., Gt. Bolton.

Hello Richard,

I was too quick off the mark!

Actually - this couldn't be my William Collin(s). In the 1881 census he was 30yrs. old, making his birth year 1851 or thereabouts.

Thanks anyway, Denise

There are 2 on the 1841 census.
One aged 1, with Mary, 40, inependant in Bolton.
Another aged 1 with James 22 and Margaret 28 in Bury.

so this is not your william?
1871
Name: William Collins
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Phillis
Gender: Male
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Elton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Bury
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
William Collins 30
Phillis Collins 30
Ellen Holden 9
Joseph Collins 1
James Collins 1 Mo

I thought you said he was 30 on the 1871 census making him born 1841.

I see on the 71 census Ellen Holden is a daughter so Phyllis must have been married before or Holden was her maiden name and Ellen was illegitimate.

I am so sorry Richard. I was looking at the copy of the 1871 census when William was 30 yrs. old.
This is the right William - thank you so much.
You as well Margaret, I really appreciate the help you have both given me.

Thank You, Denise

just in case

Name: William Collins
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bolton
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 339

Spouse-phillis holden

Fantastic! Thank you once again.
I have really got something to go on now,

Denise

Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
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COLLINS William Bolton 8c 339
HOLDEN Phillis Bolton 8c 339

Many thanks Margaret - and Richard - for your time and trouble,

Best Regards, Denise

It seems that Phillis was married before:
1861 census
25 Houghton St., Gt. Bolton, Lancashire
Richard Holden, head, 23, clogger
Phillis, wife, 20
Margaret N., dau, 1
Nancy Hough, lodger, 36, cotton winder
All born Bolton.

Uh oh! Two marriages that could be Phillis' first marriage:

Marriages Dec 1858 (>99%)
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Gregory Ann Bolton 8c 308
***Holden Richard Bolton 8c 308
Sharp William Bolton 8c 308
***Wood Phillis Bolton 8c 308


Marriages Jun 1859 (>99%)
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Brown Jane Burnley 8e 234
***Holden Richard Burnley 8e 234
***Petty Phillis Burnley 8e 234
Tomlinson William Burnley 8e 234