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Louise
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8 Jul 2009 17:51 |
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I wonder if anyone out there could help me. This is my first visit to these boards. I am trying to find out a bit more about John Coles (c1879) & Martha Parker (1888). They are both from the Whitehaven district area in Cumbria and I beleive they were married (not sure on marriage date). The Coles family were possibly from Devon, although I beleive John was born in Cumbria. If anyone has any information about these 2 people and their families (parents, siblings, children etc...) I would be very grateful to hear from you. Hope to hear from someone soon. Bye for now, Louise
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Julie
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8 Jul 2009 17:56 |
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Not in my tree but heres their marriage details ______________
Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
COLES John Whitehaven 10b 1261 Parker Martha L Whitehaven 10b 1261
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Louise
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8 Jul 2009 17:58 |
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Wow that was quick....... thanks for the info :-)
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Lindsey*
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8 Jul 2009 17:58 |
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Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%) COLES John Whitehaven 10b 1261 Parker Martha L Whitehaven 10b 1261
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PaulaW
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8 Jul 2009 17:58 |
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1881 census
John COLE Head M Male 25 Isle of Man, England Lab(Ironworks)(Unemployd) Sophia COLE Wife M Female 22 Isle of Man, England Labs Wife John W. COLE Son Male 4 m Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 17 Windmill Brow Census Place Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Family History Library Film 1342251 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 5187 / 65 Page Number 42
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Louise
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8 Jul 2009 17:59 |
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Wow another quick response................. how do you find this information so quickly?
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Lindsey*
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8 Jul 2009 17:59 |
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so they will be single on the 1911 census
info from free bmd
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Catherine
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8 Jul 2009 17:59 |
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possible children:-
Births Sep 1912 (>99%) Coles George Parker Whitehaven 10b 1349
Births Jun 1915 (>99%) Coles Mary Parker Whitehaven 10b 1416
Name: Annie Coles Mother's Maiden Surname: Parker Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1917 Registration district: Whitehaven Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland Volume Number: 10b Page Number: 1232
Name: John Coles Mother's Maiden Surname: Parker Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1919 Registration district: Whitehaven Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland Volume Number: 10b Page Number: 1241
Name: Esther Coles Mother's Maiden Surname: Parker Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1921 Registration district: Whitehaven Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland Volume Number: 10b Page Number: 1279
Name: Millie Coles Mother's Maiden Surname: Parker Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1923 Registration district: Whitehaven Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland Volume Number: 10b Page Number: 1245
Name: James Coles Mother's Maiden Surname: Parker Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1926 Registration district: Whitehaven Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland Volume Number: 10b Page Number: 1229
Name: Jessie Coles Mother's Maiden Surname: Parker Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1930 Registration district: Whitehaven Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland Volume Number: 10b Page Number: 977
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Louise
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8 Jul 2009 18:01 |
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Thanks Lindsay, Havent checked the 1911 Census yet (last time I tried Cumbria wasnt showing up).
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PollyPoppet
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8 Jul 2009 18:02 |
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hi firstly let me say hi and welcome to the boards a possible for martha for you 1891 census Name Martha Parker Age 2 Estimated Year of Birth 1889 Relationship to Head of Household DAUGHTER Occupation Juvenile Address Rottington Cottage District St Bees, Whitehaven Parish Administrative County Cumberland Birth Place St Bees Birth County CUMBERLAND in house john parker head 22 annie wife 21 martha 2 thomas 1
1901 census Address Rottington Civil Parish Rottington Rural District Whitehaven Town or Village or Hamlet Ecclesiastical Parish St Bees Parliamentary Borough or Division Egremont County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Administrative County Cumberland Householder 1 Name Annie Parker Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 31 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Cumb St Bees Language Infirmity Householder 2 Name Hannah Parker Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Age Last Birthday 1 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Cumb Rottington Language Infirmity Householder 3 Name James Parker Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Age Last Birthday 0 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Cumb Rottington Language Infirmity Householder 4 Name John Parker Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 31 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Farm Labourer Horseman Employment Status Where Born Cumb Bootle Language Infirmity Householder 5 Name John Parker Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Age Last Birthday 7 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Cumb Sandwith Language Infirmity Householder 6 Name Martha Parker Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Age Last Birthday 12 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Cumb St Bees Language Infirmity Householder 7 Name Mary Parker Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Age Last Birthday 4 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Cumb Rottington Language Infirmity Householder 8 Name Sarah Parker Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Age Last Birthday 5 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Cumb Rottington Language Infirmity Householder 9 Name Thos Parker Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 11 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Cumb Bootle Language Infirmity Householder 10 Name William Parker Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 9 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Cumb Rottington Language Infirmity
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Louise
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8 Jul 2009 18:03 |
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Thanks Catherine,
I know one of those children is definitely right, beacuse se is my Grandmother :-)
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Louise
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8 Jul 2009 18:06 |
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Hi PollyPoppet,
Thanks.
The info you have supplied is correct, I think my mum remebers some of the family coming from St bees.
I am amazed at the speed of this info coming through! :-)
Thanks again, Louise
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Catherine
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8 Jul 2009 18:09 |
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1911 shows two Martha Parker, old enough to marry, living in Whitehaven:-
HOUSEHOLD PARKER MARTHA F 1893 18 Whitehaven Cumberland
HOUSEHOLD PARKER MARTHA F 1888 23 Whitehaven Cumberland
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Catherine
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8 Jul 2009 18:13 |
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The only Martha L. Parker I could find is this one, which matches the (18yr. old Martha from 1911 census):-
Births Mar 1893 (>99%) Parker Martha Laura Holbeck 9b 316 The district Holbeck is in the county of West Riding of Yorkshire
marriage cert. will confirm her age!
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Catherine
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8 Jul 2009 18:18 |
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This could possibly be her in 1901
Name: Martha L Parker Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Tom Gender: Female Where born: Sheregreen, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Sheffield Ecclesiastical parish: Wincobank St Thomas Town: Top Wincobank County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
Registration district: Wortley Sub-registration district: Ecclesfield ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Household Members: Name Age Tom Parker 42 John Parker 11 Martha L Parker 8 Arnold Parker 1
There again marriage cert. will confirm, or not, father's name.
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Louise
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8 Jul 2009 18:20 |
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Hi Catherine,
Thanks for the info, but I dont think its this Martha as I dont think they every lived in Yorkshire?
Louise
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Catherine
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8 Jul 2009 18:22 |
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Next thing to do is to buy the marriage cert. to find out the names and occupation's of their fathers, which will help find or confirm findings in the census records.
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Catherine
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8 Jul 2009 18:27 |
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There is this Martha born 1888 in Whitehaven:-
Births Dec 1888 (>99%) PARKER Martha Whitehaven 10b 609
but she is not Martha L Parker ?
If you think your Martha is the one born 1888 from the 1911 census you could always pay to view the record.
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