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Trying to find more info Coles / Parker

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Louise

Louise Report 8 Jul 2009 17:51

I wonder if anyone out there could help me. This is my first visit to these boards.
I am trying to find out a bit more about John Coles (c1879) & Martha Parker (1888). They are both from the Whitehaven district area in Cumbria and I beleive they were married (not sure on marriage date).
The Coles family were possibly from Devon, although I beleive John was born in Cumbria.
If anyone has any information about these 2 people and their families (parents, siblings, children etc...) I would be very grateful to hear from you.
Hope to hear from someone soon.
Bye for now,
Louise

Julie

Julie Report 8 Jul 2009 17:56

Not in my tree but heres their marriage details
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Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)

COLES John Whitehaven 10b 1261
Parker Martha L Whitehaven 10b 1261

Louise

Louise Report 8 Jul 2009 17:58

Wow that was quick....... thanks for the info :-)

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 8 Jul 2009 17:58

Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
COLES John Whitehaven 10b 1261
Parker Martha L Whitehaven 10b 1261

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 8 Jul 2009 17:58

1881 census

John COLE Head M Male 25 Isle of Man, England Lab(Ironworks)(Unemployd)
Sophia COLE Wife M Female 22 Isle of Man, England Labs Wife
John W. COLE Son Male 4 m Whitehaven, Cumberland, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 17 Windmill Brow
Census Place Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342251
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5187 / 65
Page Number 42

Louise

Louise Report 8 Jul 2009 17:59

Wow another quick response................. how do you find this information so quickly?

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 8 Jul 2009 17:59

so they will be single on the 1911 census

info from free bmd

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Jul 2009 17:59

possible children:-

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Coles George Parker Whitehaven 10b 1349

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
Coles Mary Parker Whitehaven 10b 1416

Name: Annie Coles
Mother's Maiden Surname: Parker
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1917
Registration district: Whitehaven
Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 1232

Name: John Coles
Mother's Maiden Surname: Parker
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1919
Registration district: Whitehaven
Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 1241

Name: Esther Coles
Mother's Maiden Surname: Parker
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1921
Registration district: Whitehaven
Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 1279

Name: Millie Coles
Mother's Maiden Surname: Parker
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1923
Registration district: Whitehaven
Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 1245

Name: James Coles
Mother's Maiden Surname: Parker
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1926
Registration district: Whitehaven
Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 1229

Name: Jessie Coles
Mother's Maiden Surname: Parker
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1930
Registration district: Whitehaven
Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 977

Louise

Louise Report 8 Jul 2009 18:01

Thanks Lindsay,
Havent checked the 1911 Census yet (last time I tried Cumbria wasnt showing up).

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 8 Jul 2009 18:02

hi firstly let me say hi and welcome to the boards a possible for martha for you
1891 census

Name Martha Parker
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1889
Relationship to Head of Household DAUGHTER
Occupation Juvenile
Address Rottington Cottage
District St Bees, Whitehaven
Parish
Administrative County Cumberland
Birth Place St Bees
Birth County CUMBERLAND
in house
john parker head 22
annie wife 21
martha 2
thomas 1

1901 census

Address Rottington
Civil Parish Rottington
Rural District Whitehaven
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Bees
Parliamentary Borough or Division Egremont
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Cumberland
Householder 1
Name Annie Parker
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 31
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Cumb St Bees
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Hannah Parker
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 1
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Cumb Rottington
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name James Parker
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 0
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Cumb Rottington
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name John Parker
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 31
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Farm Labourer Horseman
Employment Status
Where Born Cumb Bootle
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name John Parker
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 7
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Cumb Sandwith
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name Martha Parker
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 12
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Cumb St Bees
Language
Infirmity
Householder 7
Name Mary Parker
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 4
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Cumb Rottington
Language
Infirmity
Householder 8
Name Sarah Parker
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 5
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Cumb Rottington
Language
Infirmity
Householder 9
Name Thos Parker
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 11
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Cumb Bootle
Language
Infirmity
Householder 10
Name William Parker
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 9
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Cumb Rottington
Language
Infirmity

Louise

Louise Report 8 Jul 2009 18:03

Thanks Catherine,

I know one of those children is definitely right, beacuse se is my Grandmother :-)

Louise

Louise Report 8 Jul 2009 18:06

Hi PollyPoppet,

Thanks.

The info you have supplied is correct, I think my mum remebers some of the family coming from St bees.

I am amazed at the speed of this info coming through! :-)

Thanks again,
Louise

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Jul 2009 18:09

1911 shows two Martha Parker, old enough to marry, living in Whitehaven:-

HOUSEHOLD PARKER MARTHA F 1893 18 Whitehaven Cumberland

HOUSEHOLD PARKER MARTHA F 1888 23 Whitehaven Cumberland

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Jul 2009 18:13

The only Martha L. Parker I could find is this one, which matches the (18yr. old Martha from 1911 census):-

Births Mar 1893 (>99%)
Parker Martha Laura Holbeck 9b 316
The district Holbeck is in the county of West Riding of Yorkshire

marriage cert. will confirm her age!

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Jul 2009 18:18

This could possibly be her in 1901

Name: Martha L Parker
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Tom
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheregreen, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: Wincobank St Thomas
Town: Top Wincobank
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Wortley
Sub-registration district: Ecclesfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members:
Name Age
Tom Parker 42
John Parker 11
Martha L Parker 8
Arnold Parker 1

There again marriage cert. will confirm, or not, father's name.

Louise

Louise Report 8 Jul 2009 18:20

Hi Catherine,

Thanks for the info, but I dont think its this Martha as I dont think they every lived in Yorkshire?

Louise

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Jul 2009 18:22

Next thing to do is to buy the marriage cert. to find out the names and occupation's of their fathers, which will help find or confirm findings in the census records.

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Jul 2009 18:27

There is this Martha born 1888 in Whitehaven:-

Births Dec 1888 (>99%)
PARKER Martha Whitehaven 10b 609

but she is not Martha L Parker ?

If you think your Martha is the one born 1888 from the 1911 census you could always pay to view the record.