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My grandfather was married to catherine fallon,he was a merchant seaman they married in 1904 they lived in Major Street in kirkdale I am trying to find the marriage certificate and their birth certificates can anyone shed any light on this.She was born in Bootle Lancs and I think he was originally from Carnforth or his father who was a stone mason

What was your grandfather's name?

What was your grandfathers name?

Regards Vera

So, was he John Clydesdale? and was the marriage 1903 and not 1904?

Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
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Byrne Annie W. Derby 8b 931
>>>>>>Clydesdale John W. Derby 8b 931
>>>>>>Fallon Catherine W. Derby 8b 931
Fallow Catherine W. Derby 8b 931
Menchem William Henry W. Derby 8b 931
Meuchem William Henry W. Derby 8b 931

So, was he John Clydesdale? and was the marriage 1903 and not 1904?

From freebmd:
Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
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Byrne Annie W. Derby 8b 931
>>>>>>Clydesdale John W. Derby 8b 931
>>>>>>Fallon Catherine W. Derby 8b 931
Fallow Catherine W. Derby 8b 931
Menchem William Henry W. Derby 8b 931
Meuchem William Henry W. Derby 8b 931

The marriage cert will give their ages and father's names.

Potty,
Good one.......never thought that was his name...
I thought it was the place !!!!
Regards Vera

So did I, Vera, until I found the marriage!

1911
CLYDESDALE, Catherine Head Married
7 years F 28 1883 Liverpool Lancs VIEW
CLYDESDALE, John Son M 6 1905 School Liverpool Lancs VIEW
CLYDESDALE, Jane Daughter F 4 1907 Liverpool Lancs VIEW
CLYDESDALE, Catherine Daughter F 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Liverpool Lancs VIEW
FALLON, John Brother Single M 23 1888 Dock Labourer Liverpool Lancs VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22450 Reference:
RG14PN22450 RG78PN1323 RD455 SD6 ED7 SN158

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Kirkdale Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Kirkdale

Address:
29 Major St Kirkdale Liverpool County:
Lancashire



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Regards Vera

Beat me to it, Vera. John snr must have been at sea when the census was taken.

Catherine in 1901?:
1901 England Census
about Catherine Fallon
Name: Catherine Fallon
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bootle, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Great Crosby
Ecclesiastical parish: Great Crosby St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Crosby
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 157
Household Members: Name Age
Dorothy Magee 70
Elizabeth Magee 44
Edward J Magee 36
George M Magee 32
Agnes Hales 24
Catherine Fallon 19

My grandfather was known as Jack but suspect he was a John

Can't find her in 1891. John, you will need to get her marriage cert for her father's name.

I do have all of this information its the certificates I would like to see,my grandfather was obviously away at sea at the time of the census, he ultimately lost his life at Southampton falling from the ship, crazy after all the years at sea he loses it at the port.

I have said 1904 because on the 1911 census it states married for 7 years but I suppose it may be 1903

The only way you can see the cert is to buy it! You can buy it online from this site:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Costs £9.25 if you tick the "Have full reference" box. The vol and page number in the index entry I quoted are the refs you need.

thank you for your help its appreciated

Sorry to ask but are those ref numbers you refer to 8b 931

Yes, 8b is the volumne no and 931 the page number.