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Bradley
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12 Apr 2010 18:24 |
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Hi
Can somebody help me find the parents of:
Sir Hamon Clervaux.
He was born as Hamon Clevaux
born: France 1037.
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Dea
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12 Apr 2010 18:26 |
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You really need AOGG 'on the case' !!
Where are you AOGG??
Dea Xxx
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 18:27 |
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just for the record
Hamon Clervaux Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: About 1037 Of, , Normandie Province, France
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 18:28 |
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Husband Sir Hamon Clervaux Pedigree Birth: About 1037 Of, , Normandie Province, France
Wife Mrs. Hamon Clervaux Pedigree Birth: About 1041 Of Croft, , Yorkshire, England Christening: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Alban Clervaux Pedigree Male Birth: About 1069 Of Croft, , Yorkshire, England
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Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)
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12 Apr 2010 18:32 |
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I love that - "Mrs" Hamon Clervaux ...
Bless.
Jill
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 18:32 |
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how's your French Bradley?
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 18:49 |
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Cleribew, probably a corruption of Cleriveus or Clairvaux. The family of Clerowe is armorially identified with Clarvaux of York- shire (Robson). Clairvaux was near Rhodez, Aquitaine. Ranulph and John de Clervaus or Clerwaus occur in England c. 1272 (Rot. Pip.). The name long flourished at Croft^ Yorkshire.
I have just read through an amzing amount of dross on the Norman invasion!!! this is all I could glean from it!!
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 18:51 |
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over to you Bradley!!!!
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Bradley
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12 Apr 2010 20:00 |
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Where would I go to find out who Sir Hamons parents are?
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 20:05 |
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a clairvoyant?
and have you nothing to say at all about what I have found for you - I spent ages looking for you and you've made no comment whatsoever
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Flick
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12 Apr 2010 20:07 |
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Bradley
France is a nice holiday destination
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 21:00 |
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seems Bradley is already on his way
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 21:02 |
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Gerhard Ier von SPONHEIM Compact Disc #143 Pin #4642423 Pedigree Sex: M
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s) Birth: abt 1075 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents Father: Stefan von SPONHEIM Disc #143 Pin #4642418 Mother: Sofia von HAMM Disc #143 Pin #4642419
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage(s) Spouse: N de VIANDEN Disc #143 Pin #4681742 Marriage: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Personal Information Title: Seigneur de Clervaux
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 21:07 |
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Cleremaus :
for Clairvaux; either from Clairvaux, near Rodez, Acquitaine; or from the castle of Clairvaux, in the comte of Anjou, held in 1185 by Richard, Count of Poitou (Magn. Rotul. Scaccarii Normanniae). Leland gives this and the following name as "Cleravalx et Clarel." It was borne by a Yorkshire family of ancient lineage and high degree, long resident in the North Riding. Their ancestor, Hamon de Clervaux, is said to have come over to England in the train of Alan the Red of Brittany; and this tradition is confirmed by an illumination in the Coll. MSS. Faustina, B. 7, that represents the Earl receiving from the Conqueror the grant of his Honour of Richmond, for among the banners displayed behind him is delineated the golden saltire of Clervaux. Croft, near Darlington, was their seat for about three hundred and fifty years; and their alliances attest the position they held in the county. Ralph and John de Clervaux occur in the Pipe Rolls about 1272. In the time of Henry IV. Sir John Clervaux of Croft married Margaret Lumley (whose mother Eleanor was a Nevill of Raby), and his descendant Ralph, who died in 1490, is consequently styled, on his altar-tomb in Croft Church, "cousin, in the third degree, to the Kings of the House of York." The last heir in the direct line was another John Clervaux, who lived in the reign of Henry VIII., and had no child but a daughter. In an old poem of the time, he is included among the Yorkshiremen present at Flodden:
"John Clarvis then was nex'd near, With Stapylton of stomach stern; Next whom Fitzwilliam forth did fare, Who martial feats was not to learn."
"The Baron of Hilton in the Bishoprick of Duresme," says Leland, "maried the Heyre of Clarevalx by Tese: but she hath been long maried and hath no Children." On her. death Croft reverted to her uncle Sir William Clervaux, whose daughter Elizabeth eventually became the last representative of the family, and conveyed it to her husband Christopher Chaytor. She succeeded, however, to but a small part of the once "princely inheritance of Clervaux," for her brother John, Esquire of the Body to Henry VIII., had been "an unthrift, much given to dicing, carding, and riotous gambling." The property is still held by her descendants, and one of them, Sir William Chaytor, early in the present century, built Clervaux Castle on his manor of Croft. When it finally passed away from the Clervaux in 1591, they had held it, without interruption, from the time of Henry III.
"A humble race of cadets occur at Darlington long after the broad lands of their parent tree had passed into another name, and they seem to have gradually sunk into utter pauperism. The pedigree will show them to have been nearly related to the main branch, as the Chaytors had to buy out any claim they had."—Longstaffe's History of Darlington. The name degenerated into Clarvis or Clarfax.
This is by no means a solitary instance of decadence. Often and often a noble name, supposed to have perished, has in fact only been lost sight of, and sunk into oblivion. Probably many a humble artisan toiling in the purlieus of our great cities, or poor peasant digging for his daily bread, might boast with the braggart Frenchman—
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 21:13 |
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Clervaux Castle, Croft, Yorkshire
The castle was built in Norman style with six square towers, 12 bedrooms and four reception rooms. It was occupied by the Chaytor family until 1831 when the family decided to use Croft Hall as their primary residence. In 1950 the castle was sold to the Baharie Brothers of Sunderland and dismantled so the stone could be used in the construction of roads.
The Clervauxs from which the castle took its name had arrived in Britain in the Norman era, when a certain Sir Hammon Clervaux accompanied William the Conqueror on his invasion of England. It was during the reign of Henry III (1207-1272) that the family obtained the verdant agricultural lands in the vale of the Tees at Croft.
As with many Norman surnames of the era, the name Clervaux probably derives from a place. It is likely that it originates from one of three places in France called Clairvaux, the most famous of which is situated between Troyes and Rodez. There is of course a difference in spelling between Clairvaux and Clervaux, but there are a number of instances in which names that begin with 'Clair' (meaning 'clear') have become 'Cler'. This does not, however, discount the possibility that the Clervaux family may have originated from the place called Clervaux in northern Luxembourg.
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 21:15 |
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Husband John Clervaux Pedigree Birth: About 1180 Of Croft, , Yorkshire, England Christening: Father: Robert Clervaux Family Mother: Alice or Anna Anlaby or Latheby
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 21:16 |
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Husband's Name John CLERVAUX (AFN:KLFW-WJ) Pedigree Born: Abt 1348 Place: Of, Croft, Yorkshire, England Married: Abt 1373 Place: Of, Croft, Yorkshire, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife's Name Isabell RICHMOND (AFN:KLFW-XP) Pedigree Born: Abt 1350 Place: Of, Croft, Yorkshire, England Married: Abt 1373 Place: Of, Croft, Yorkshire, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Sex Name F Margaret CLERVAUX (AFN:KLFW-ZV) Pedigree Born: Abt 1375 Place: Of, Croft, Yorkshire, England
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 21:17 |
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Robert II Clervaux Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: About 1145 Of Croft, , Yorkshire, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Thomas Clervaux Family Mother: Timotea Gascoigne
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AnnCardiff
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12 Apr 2010 21:19 |
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Sir Henry Clervaux Compact Disc #139 Pin #1179219 Pedigree Sex: M
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s) Birth: abt 1198 of Croft, Yorkshire, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents Father: Sir John Clervaux Disc #139 Pin #1179223 Mother: Herodia Marmion Disc #139 Pin #1179224
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage(s) Spouse: Famathela Nesom Disc #139 Pin #1179220 Marriage: abt 1222 of Croft, Yorkshire, England
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Bradley
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13 Apr 2010 09:32 |
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Thank You so much.
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