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Hi

Could someone please do a census look up for me please?
I am trying to find out members of the household of William R Charles born Allensmore, Herefordshire. I think I have found him on the 1901 census in Kensington as a Gardener (even though it says Allenmore, Herts).

Any help greatly appreciated.
Christine

Sorry but I cannot spot him or his wife and 2 sons on the 1911. The 1901 that you mention has a wonderful piece of mistranscription. The son Ronald is shown as being 48 years older than his father.

1901 for reference:
Name: William R Charles
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Allins More, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Bayswater
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members: Name Age
William R Charles 33
Mary A Charles 33 born Longford, Ireland
Harold J Charles 5 born Stroud (Not Strond), Gloucestershire
Ronald F Charles 81 (1) born Waltham, Lincolnshire

The family obviously moved about quite a bit.

Hi

Thank you so much. I am sure it is the right family as I could not find an Allenmore in Herts and as for the age mistake - well!!

Thanks again.

They certainly did move about and we think they went to Canada hence not finding them maybe on the 1911 census,

I think this is them going to Canada. If you look at the 1901, I'm sure Ronald should be Reginald.


Name: Harold CHARLES
Date of departure: 24 June 1909
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Quebec
Destination country: Canada
Date of Birth: 1895 (calculated from age)
Age: 14
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation:
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 5
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Mary CHARLES
Reginold CHARLES
William CHARLES labourer
Ship: POMERANIAN
Official Number: 85193
Master's name: John Henderson
Steamship Line: Allan Line Steam Ship Co Ltd
Where bound: Montreal, Canada
Square feet: 9819
Registered tonnage: 2699
Passengers on voyage: 73


Possible birth?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Reginald Frank Charles
Name: Reginald Frank Charles
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Grimsby
County: Humberside, Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 604 (click to see others on page)

Hi

Well between the pair of you you have really made my day!!

We have always believed that William went to Canada but have never been able to find any details. I have even been in touch with a man in Canada and he is still looking so to find this out today is amazing, I cannot thank you enough and once again thanks to everyone who helps.

You're most welcome, Christine. Can't find them on a census but they were landing in Quebec and going to Bowmanville.

Liz

Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1957
about Reginald F Charles
Name: Reginald F Charles
Arrival Date: 3 Feb 1924
Age: 24
Birth Date: abt 1900
Birthplace: Leicestershire
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English

Port of Arrival: Detroit, Michigan
Departure Contact: Father William 370 Marguaretta Street
Arrival Contact: Friend Macmartin 4005 Freed Avenue

Microfilm Roll Number: M1478_11


His occupation was Segu writer??


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1930 United States Federal Census
about Reginald T Charles
Name: Reginald T Charles
Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
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Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alex C Mclaren 43
Lila R Mclaren 42
Ida M Williams 72
Thomas C Dickinson 29
Reginald T Charles 28 artist in advertising.
William F Carter 24

Wow Can't believe it. So Reginald then went to America. I don't know what a Segu Writer is - will have to look that one up. Thanks again.

Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1957
about Harold J Charles
Name: Harold J Charles
Arrival Date: 9 Feb 1924
Age: 28
Birth Date: abt 1896
Birthplace: Stroud
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English

Port of Arrival: Detroit, Michigan
Departure Contact: Wife Lillian F of Alder? Crescent, Long Branch
Arrival Contact: Friend Wilbur J Jennie 5439 Field Avenue?

Microfilm Roll Number: M1478_11


His occupation is Assembler.
These are really hard to read so I think the friend is called Wilbur but not sure about the rest.




Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1926
about Harold J Charles
Name: Harold J Charles artist
Birth Place: England
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Father Name: Wm Richard Charles
Mother Name: Mary Ann Charles
Spouse Name: Lillian Frances Hodson
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse Birth Place: England
Spouse Father Name: Ernest Thos Hodson
Spouse Mother Name: Alice Mary Hodson
Marriage Date: 23 Jul 1919
Marriage Location: York
Marriage County: York
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_511



1930 United States Federal Census
about Harold J Charles
Name: Harold J Charles
Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
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Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Lillian F
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Harold J Charles 34
Lillian F Charles 34 assembly line in an automobile factory
John R Charles 7 son b Canada
Archibald Berger 48 roomer

So Harold followed Reginal? Interesting. Don't know what to say except thanks again.

Confirmation that they all arrived in Quebec on 10/7/1909:

Name: Reg Frank Charles
Gender: Male
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Date of Arrival: 10 Jul 1909
Vessel: Pomeranian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Pomeranian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: London, England and Le Havre, France
Roll: T-4761

Also listed are William Henry, Mary Annie and Harold John.

Here's the 1911 .Poor Reg has been mistranscribed again! Can't make sense of Harold's occupation.



1911 Census of Canada
about Harold Charles
Name: Harold Charles
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 16
Birth Date: May 1895
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: W R
Mother's Name: Annie
Immigration Year: 1909
Tribal: English
Province: Ontario
District: Toronto West
District Number: 128
Sub-District: Ward 5
Sub-District Number: 53
Place of Habitation: 24 Clarmont St
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
W R Charles 31 florist b Aug 1879
Annie Charles 31 b Nov 1879
Harold Charles 16 appuator??
Bernald Charles 11 b Oct 1899

Well what an I say? I never expected to find that all out today. So many helpful people on GR. Thanks.

Maybe:

Name: Harold J Charles
Birth Place: England
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Father Name: Wm Richard Charles
Mother Name: Mary Ann Charles
Spouse Name: Lillian Frances Hodson
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse Birth Place: England
Spouse Father Name: Ernest Thos Hodson
Spouse Mother Name: Alice Mary Hodson
Marriage Date: 23 Jul 1919
Marriage Location: York
Marriage County: York
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_511

Thank you Jonesey.You don't know how much of a brick wall William has been.

William also traveled a bit. He was a gardner, wife Mary Ann was in Toronto and it looks like he was going to Lake Worth, Florida to make his home there.



Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about William R Charles
Name: William R Charles
Arrival Date: Nov 1915
Age: 48
Birth Date: abt 1867
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English

Port of Arrival: Buffalo


A better version of that record.


Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about William R Charles
Name: William R Charles
Arrival Date: 1 Nov 1915
Age: 48
Birth Date: abt 1867
Birthplace: Allensmore
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English

Port of Arrival: Buffalo
Departure Contact: Wife Mary Ann
Arrival Contact: Friend John Mctaggart
Record has photo?: No



Coming back on his own? He was a labourer. Not sure about this one though.


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about William R Charles
Name: William R Charles
Birth Date: abt 1864
Age: 49
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 26 Oct 1913
Port of Arrival: Bristol, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
Ship Name: Royal George
Search Ship Database: View the 'Royal George' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Northern Line
Official Number: 125643

Wonder why he came back? To enlist maybe? We have always assumed he stayed out there.

Just looked up Pomeranian. Torpedoed in 1918 after having been requisitioned and the wreck lies off of Dorset. Fascinating!