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William Henry & Rose Elizabeth Chapman

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Sandra

Sandra Report 19 Jan 2010 14:35

Married between July and September 1902, does anyone know what happened to them after that? Did they have any children? No trace in 1911 census. Only possibility is that they emigrated.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jan 2010 14:37

You should check them on the 1911 census to see if had any children by then After 1911 the birth records show the mmn so you can check with their surname combination

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jan 2010 14:42

this looks like their marriage
Name: William Henry Chapman
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: St George Hanover Square
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 1143
spouse Rose Elizabeth Grimmett

Ayn

Ayn Report 17 Dec 2011 22:42

Hi my Father in law's mother, Gladys Beatrice Chapman, was born to William Henry and Rose Elizabeth in London on 24 October 1905. As far as I know there was two other siblings Evelyn and Cecil. I am also unable to find other details. William Chapman died on 1 July 1918 in the Chilwell Munitions explosion in Nottingham, but I can find no official record. On Gladys's birth certificate Wiliam is listed as a Licensed Victualler and anecdotal evidence exisits that he used to be associated with the Magpie and Stump in London near the old Bailey. Any further info would be appreciated.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Dec 2011 22:49

Have you considered this? Completely wrong occupation however!

CHAPMAN, William Head Married M 32 1879 Picture Frame Maker Fulham London VIEW
CHAPMAN, Rose Wife Married
8 years F 32 1879 Nr Winchcombe Gloucestershire VIEW
CHAPMAN, Gladys Daughter F 5 1906 Herne Hill Surrey VIEW
CHAPMAN, Cecil Son M 3 1908 Westminster London VIEW
CHAPMAN, Evelyn Daughter F 1 1910 Walthamstow Essex VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1091 Reference:
RG14PN1091 RG78PN36 RD11 SD3 ED18 SN226

Registration District:
Hackney Sub District:
Central Hackney Enumeration District:
18 Parish:
St John At Hackney

Address:
102 Chatsworth Road County:
London

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Dec 2011 22:51

Just been looking at that one as well

Best match found so far

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Dec 2011 22:53

This must be William's death, giving YOB as about 1880:

Deaths Sep 1918 (>99%)
Chapman William H 38 Shardlow 7b 570

Jan

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Dec 2011 22:56

??

Name: Rose May Chapman
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1903
Baptism Date: 20 Sep 1903
Father's Name: William Henry Chapman
Mother's Name: Rose Elizabeth Chapman
Parish or Poor Law Union: Holborn St Sepulchre
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers


18 Old Bailey

William is a licensed vitualler


Name: Rose May Chapman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1903
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: London City
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 22





So two families with similar names

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Dec 2011 22:57

I have found this, putting here as it vaguely matches with above findings, though wrong reg. district for birth compared with 1911 - if that is her of course!

1891 England Census

Name: Rose E Grimmett
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Seth Grimmett
Mother's Name: Rosetta Grimmett
Gender: Female
Where born: Fordington, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: St John The Evangalist Westminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens
County/Island: London

Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St John Westminster

Seth Grimmett 40
Rosetta Grimmett 35
Harry B Grimmett 14
Rose E Grimmett 12
Seth J E Grimmett 5

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Dec 2011 22:59

Another possible baptism

Name: William Charles Chapman
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1904
Baptism Date: 7 Aug 1904
Father's Name: William Henry Chapman
Mother's Name: Rose Elizabeth Chapman
Parish or Poor Law Union: Holborn St Sepulchre
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers


18 Old Bailey

Licensed victualler

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Dec 2011 22:59

Last offering - this is the only matching name as far as I can see:

Births Dec 1878 (>99%)
GRIMMETT Rose Elizabeth Winchcombe 6a 411

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Dec 2011 22:59

Ayn

Have you tried to contact Sandra as this thread is an old one

GB

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Dec 2011 23:01

Just to re-cap - do we think a birth cert is needed here really? To establish who Rose is. It does seem there are 2 similar families doesn't it?
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Dec 2011 23:04

Oh no! Fell into the trap! Well spotted GB.
Jan

Ayn

Ayn Report 18 Dec 2011 18:00

Thanks so much everyone, I am very new to this, so I appreciate all the help. I did send Sandra a message thanks GB. Brummiejan thanks again, very easy to go down a rabbitt warren when little info exists.
:-D