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George Frankton (1849)

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Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 8 Aug 2009 14:16

...for George Frankton (b.1849)probably in Dunchurch/Thurlaston areas of Warwickshire---census years 1861 & 1871 1901 only please...Also Charles Winkless (b.1822?)in Great Glen,Leicestershire...year 1841 only please(name has variations:Winchless/Winkle/Winkles)..Many thanks everyone

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 8 Aug 2009 14:19

Any other clues for George Frankton - cannot see him on 1861. Couple of George Franklins so he could be mistranscribed. Do you have his parents' names?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 8 Aug 2009 14:19


1871 England Census

Name: George Frankton
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunchurch, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Rugby
Town: Rugby
County/Island: Warwickshire

Registration district: Rugby

Name Age
Eliza Holding 53
Ann E Holding 25
Wm G Holding 17
Alice E Holding 10
George Frankton 23
Arthur Shuttleworth 22
Joseph Gibbins 19

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 8 Aug 2009 14:20

Looking for Frankton born Dunchurch (1861):

John Frankton
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunchurch, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Dunchurch
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Rugby
Sub-registration district: Dunchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 196
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Frankton 39
Sarah Frankton 42
John Frankton 13
Mary Frankton 9
Edward Frankton 6

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Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2214; Folio: 37; Page: 33; GSU roll: 542937.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 8 Aug 2009 14:21

Not George, but probably his family?

1861 England Census

Name: John Frankton
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunchurch, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Dunchurch
County/Island: Warwickshire

Registration district: Rugby
Sub-registration district: Dunchurch

Thomas Frankton 39
Sarah Frankton 42
John Frankton 13
Mary Frankton 9
Edward Frankton 6

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 8 Aug 2009 14:22

thanks eveyone...George did not live with mother atall (he was illegitimate) he is with his grandma Sarah Frankton in 1851 census

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Aug 2009 14:35

1841 poss

Name: Charles Winklys
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Hellidon
Hundred: Fawsley
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Daventry
Sub-registration district: Daventry
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Winklys 50
Charles Winklys 20
William Winklys 15
Thomas Winklys 15

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 798; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Hellidon; County: Northamptonshire; Enumeration District: 14; Folio: 10; Page: 14; Line: 18; GSU roll: 438874.


Image is actually Winklefs but as "fs" was usually "ss" it could be him

Charles, William and Thomas listed as not born in county

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 8 Aug 2009 14:39

thanks GB...very interesting...trouble is i dont know Charles' parents names & was hoping 1841 would reveal possibly??...just checked my records--he gives Grt . Glen on 1851,but this changes later....

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Aug 2009 14:58

1851 might as well post this

Name: Mary Winklys
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1792
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Hellidon, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Hellidon
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Daventry
Sub-registration district: Weedon
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Winklys 59
Thomas Wm Siby 25

Winklefs for both Mary and Thomas



THOMAS WINCHLESS
10 APR 1825 Great Glen, Leicester, England
John Winchless and Mary

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 8 Aug 2009 15:13

thanks Glitter...sorry ...got called away...this looks interesting...i will definately need to go into this alot further!.........on 1851 info. re: Mary does it say if she is a widow atall ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Aug 2009 15:17

Yes Mary is listed as widow on 1851

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 8 Aug 2009 15:27

thanks GB..well thats yet another avenue to explore...!!!!!!!!!!!!...could i refer you back to my other question on here about census info. on George Frankton, no one able ? to supply 1901 info. for him or 1861..Mrs G mentioned finding George Franklins in '61 but didn't come back to me( Frankton as been mis-transcibed before as Franklin)>>>>>>>>thanks

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Aug 2009 15:28

Sorry I had no luck with George in 1861

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Aug 2009 15:32

1901
Name: George Frankton
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Dunleah, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Rugby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Rugby
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Rugby
Sub-registration district: Rugby
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 187
Household Members: Name Age
George Frankton 54
Elizabeth Frankton 50 Bourton
Frederick W Frankton 21
Annie L Frankton 9

Change of occupation to horsekeeper


Class: RG13; Piece: 2918; Folio: 21; Page: 33.

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 8 Aug 2009 15:37

thanks GB thats 100% him....could poss. try for him as George FRANKLIN on 1861 in Warwickshire,he would have been 12 yrs of age roughly...i hate to think he had been abandoned by family...thanks again(sorry to be a pest !!!).

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Aug 2009 16:09

Still no luck with 1861.

Found his grandmother Sarah but not with her.

Maureen

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 8 Aug 2009 16:15

thanks for all hard work GB..i think i will just have to do without this record for him--the only one that's missing...just hope he was not in workhouse or orphanage(horrible thought that..straight out of Charles Dickens)...Also thanks to everyone who helped with this thread !!

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 8 Aug 2009 16:45

Roy, just to say that like Glitterbaby I have tried every combination under the sun and no luck with George - just don't think he has been recorded.
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 8 Aug 2009 16:48

One last try!

1861 England Census

Name: George Frankton
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Church Lawford, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West

Age wrong though, I know. However birthplace only about 4 miles away.

Jan

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 8 Aug 2009 16:59

Janet..thanks for that..not my George though,he is of the Church Lawford Franktons(no apparent relation)..a couple of them were in service as Butler,etc...you & GB have helped me many times with this family & it is very much appreciated--not forgetting Mrs Grumpy--you never fail in giving me correct answers to my questions...best wishes Roy