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I'm looking for the parents of Caroline Carr born 1867 in Lambeth all i know is that she married Percival William Phillips born 1863 in Shorditch they married in London in 1888.

Thankyou
Lyn

The marriage cert should give her fathers name ,if known witnesses too may be family members

Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)
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Carr Caroline Rosina Bethnal Green 1c 546
Phillips Percival William Bethnal Green 1c 546
ROONEY John Bethnal Green 1c 546




1871 ????


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CARR, William Head M 26 1845 Middlesex VIEW
CARR, Martha Wife F 25 1846 Middlesex VIEW
CARR, Martha Daughter F 9 1862 Middlesex VIEW
CARR, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1865 Middlesex VIEW
CARR, Caroline Daughter F 3 1868 Middlesex VIEW
CARR, George Son M 1 1870 Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
480 Folio:
53 Page:
49

Registration District:
Bethnal Green Sub District:
Hackney Road Enumeration District:
20 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Bethnal Green Municipal Borough:
Address:
Melina Place, Bethnal Green County:
London, Middlesex



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Checking marriage certificate....as suggested would tell you for certain about fathers name etc.


Regards Vera

place of birth differs on the 1901 stated as Hackney
1911 states lambeth but is on her own !
PHILLIPS, Caroline Head Widow F 42 1869 Laundress Lambeth London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1839 Reference:
RG14PN1839 RG78PN65 RD23 SD5 ED21 SN344

Registration District:
Southwark Sub District:
Newington South Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
St Mary Newington

Address:
34 Villa Street Walworth S E County

NOW is this the same lady as she states she had NO children

could this be it
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Caroline Carr
Name: Caroline Carr
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1867
Baptism Date: 25 Aug 1867
Father's name: William Carr
Mother's name: Adelaide Carr
Parish or Poor Law Union: West Norwood St Luke
Borough: Lambeth

cant think she has left all the children !!
1901 census
PHILLIPS, Percival Head Married M 36 1865 Cord Wainer
Hackney
London VIEW
PHILLIPS, Caroline Wife Married F 32 1869
Hackney
London VIEW
PHILLIPS, Caroline Daughter F 11 1890
Hackney
London VIEW
PHILLIPS, Percy Son M 9 1892
Hackney
London VIEW
PHILLIPS, Fred Son M 8 1893
Hackney
London VIEW
PHILLIPS, Kate Daughter F 4 1897
Hackney
London VIEW
PHILLIPS, Rose Daughter F 1 1900
Hackney
London VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
233 Folio:
51 Page:
26

Registration District:
Hackney Sub District:
South-East Hackney Enumeration District:
25 Ecclesiastical Parish:
South Hackney St Augustine

Civil Parish:
Hackney Municipal Borough:
Address:
21, Benn Street, Hackney County:
London

This is the nearest birth I can find (with the names the other way round):-

Name: Rosina Caroline Carr
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 374

Kath. x

how about this one - 1868 dob on the 1881 census

William CARR Head M Male 38 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Cellarman
Martha CARR Wife M Female 36 Islington, Middlesex, England
Martha CARR Daur U Female 18 Islington, Middlesex, England General Servant
Caroline CARR Daur Female 13 Islington, Middlesex, England General Servant
George CARR Son Male 11 Islington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Louisa CARR Daur Female 8 Hackney, Middlesex, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 12 Urban Pl
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341067
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0311 / 105
Page Number 24

1871

Re Shirleys find....


1871

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CARR, William Head M 42 1829 Suffolk VIEW
CARR, Adelaide Wife F 40 1831 Suffolk VIEW
CARR, James Son M 12 1859 Surrey VIEW
CARR, Willie Son M 8 1863 Surrey VIEW
CARR, Annie Daughter F 6 1865 Surrey VIEW
CARR, Carry Daughter F 3 1868 Surrey VIEW
CARR, Frederick Son M 8 1863 Surrey VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
693 Folio:
13 Page:
20

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Norwood Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Mary Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
Wood Street, St Mary Lambeth County:
London, Surrey



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Regards Vera

vera
matches in with the baptism record i found
maddie

1911 census
Mrs PHILLIPS Wife Married
23 years F 43 1868 Cook Islington London VIEW
PHILLIPS, Percy Son Single M 19 1892 Homerton London VIEW
PHILLIPS, Frederick Son Single M 18 1893 Homerton London VIEW
PHILLIPS, Kate Daughter F 14 1897 Homerton London VIEW
Mrs CARR Visitor Widow F 66 1845 Poplar London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1676 Reference:
RG14PN1676 RG78PN58 RD22 SD1 ED26 SN263

Registration District:
Poplar Sub District:
Bow Enumeration District:
26 Parish:
Poplar Borough

Address:
127 Lefevere Road County:
London

Possible 1881

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MARTIN, William S Head Married M 29 1852 Ironmongers Assistant
Woolwich
Kent VIEW
MARTIN, Helen M Wife Married F 30 1851
Greenwich
Kent VIEW
MARTIN, Rose S Daughter Single F 4 1877
Norwood
Surrey VIEW
MARTIN, Ellen E Daughter Single F 2 1879
Norwood
Surrey VIEW
MARTIN, Alice M Daughter Single F 1 1880
Norwood
Surrey VIEW
SLEIGHT, Charlotte Boarder Single F 73 1808 Annuitant
Chislehurst
Kent VIEW
CARR, Caroline Servant Single F 13 1868 Domestic Servant
Norwood
Surrey VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
627 Folio:
22 Page:
3

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Norwood Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
1, Cranfield Grove, Lambeth County:
Surrey


Regards Vera

Caroline's marriage:

Name: Caroline Rosina Carr - servant
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Spouse Name: Percival William Phillips - cordwainer
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 21 May 1888
Parish: St Thomas, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
>>>Father Name: William Carr - deceased bricklayer
Spouse Father Name: Percival William Phillips - cordwainer

Witnesses: LOUISA CARR George Bounds

NB A sister, Louisa Carr, on AOGG 1881 Carr census.

Sorry Maddie.......my mistake put Shirley name re birth details.


Regards Vera

Percival maybe
Name: Percival Phillips
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 39
District: Poplar (To 1965)
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 312


family living in Poplar on the 1911 census altho caroline states married maybe she didnt understand what to put in as it asks how many years married

Baptism???:

Name: Caroline Rosina Carr
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1867
Baptism Date: 14 Jul 1867
Father's name: William Carr
Mother's name: Martha Carr
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington

Father a labourer. Birth date 20th june 1867.

Possible marriage of plain Caroline Carr, daur of William and Adelaide?

Name: Caroline Carr
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Spouse Name: Alfred Alexander Webbe -widower clerk.
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 12 Dec 1887
Parish: St John the Evangelist, East Dulwich
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Carr - deceased gardiner
Spouse Father Name: William Webbe - deceased clerk.

Witnesses Elizabeth Long & Susanna Martin, ( latter possibly related to employer's family in Vera's possible census 1881??)

again, for elimination:

1901 Caroline Webbe nee Carr - born Norwood Surrey:

Name: Caroline Webbe
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Alfred A Webbe
Gender: Female
>>Where born: West Norwood, London, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Norwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 165
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred A Webbe 37
Caroline Webbe 33
Lilian A Webbe 15
Henry J E Webbe 12
Albert A Webbe 1

My gut feelingfrom the evidence above is that Caroline Rosina Carr is the one born Islington to William Carr and Martha; and that Caroline Carr daughter of William Carr and Adelaide married Alfred A Webbe, but I expect others will differ...

shirley,vera,maddie anne & kucinta thankyou all for your help, from all your information i think that william and martha carr are her parents as many things link with what i have got.
I'm amazed at how quickly you all came back with all the information much appreciated as i am quite a novice at this.

Kind regards to all
Lyn