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Thanks Kucinta!


I hoped someone with a sub would be able to find them from that


Now as for George William ............ there are several George William Butlers living in Lincolnshire, BUT ...




I still think she called herself a widow, when she wasn't and knew that she wasn't





sylvia

Found Florence with Arnold in 1911

KENDALL, GEORGE HEAD MARRIED 53 M 79 FARMER LINC ASHBY
KENDALL, CATHERINE WIFE MARRIED F 73 LINCS SCUNTHORPE
BUTTER, FLORENCE ISABEL DAUGHTER MARRIED 6 F 31 ASSISTANT STONEKEEPER LINCS FFRODINGHAM
BUTTER, ARNOLD GRANDSON M 5 LINCS COSBY
SOMDERSON, HUGH GRANDSON SINGLE M 19 FARM LABOURER LINCS SCUNTHORPE


Florence and Arnold transcribed as Butter.

Milicent in 1911:

PORKESS, Thomas Head Widow M 54 1857 Retired - Butcher Winterton .
PORKESS, Emily Wife Married 30 years F 57 1854 Winterton.
>>PORKESS, Milicent Granddaughter Single F 5 1906 Burton on Stathers .

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
20076 Reference:
RG14PN20076 RG78PN1201 RD424 SD2 ED9 SN62

Registration District:
Glanford Brigg Sub District:
Winterton Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Burton upon Stather

Address:
Burton on Stather Doncaster County:
Lincolnshire


I was wondering whether you could trace siblings and their descendants, of Milicent, but this doesn't look promising!!!

Thomas and Emily only had two children of their marriage, both still living in 1911. One of them must have been Milicent's parent.

Birth: Porkess Milicent Glanford B. 7a 695 JFM 1906.

Well done Sylvia!!!!!!

Census 1911:

KENDALL, George Head Married 53 years M 79 1832 Farmer Linc Ashby .
KENDALL, Catherine Wife Married F 73 1838 Lincs Scunthorpe .
>>BUTTER, Florence Isabel Daughter Married 6 years F 31 1880 Assistant Stonekeeper Lincs Ffrodingham .
>>BUTTER, Arnold Grandson M 5 1906 Lincs Cosby .
SOMDERSON, Hugh Grandson Single M 19 1892 Farm Labourer Lincs Scunthorpe .

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
20089 Reference:
RG14PN20089 RG78PN1201 RD424 SD2 ED22 SN16B

Registration District:
Glanford Brigg Sub District:
Winterton Enumeration District:
22 Parish:
Bottesford

Address:
Bottesford County:
Lincolnshire

EDIT: George and Catherine Kendall had 10 children of their marriage; only 6 still living at time of census 1911.

what's the betting this is them


I don't have a sub, but this is by doign the free search

HOUSEHOLD BUTTER FLORENCE ISABEL F 1880 31 Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire
HOUSEHOLD BUTTER ARNOLD M 1906 5 Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire



looks as though Mr has already gone?!



sylvia

YES!


Marriages Dec 1930 (>99%)

Butler Arnold C K Porkess Glanford B 7a 1677
Porkess Millicent Butler Glanford B. 7a 1677



oh, it does make it easier when you have the full names!!!




sylvia

Did Arnold ahve any other names??

I cannot find a birth for an Arnold Butler in Lincolnshire in 1906, but there is this one


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Arnold Charles K Butler
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Glanford Brigg
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 690 (click to see others on page)



sylvia

I can't find these people on 1911 census...........was hoping to find out if Arnold had any siblings

Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
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Butler George William Glanford B 7a 1822
KENDALL Florence Isabel Glanford B. 7a 1822

Deaths Dec 1929 (>99%)
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BUTLER Florence I 50 Glanford B 7a 734

Have you tried a search on this site to see if anyone else is looking for the family, it may help if you add "Canada" to your heading,
Good luck,
Liz

David

I have absolutley no connection to your fmaily


I do however have some suggestions for you.



IF George William left Florence, and moved abroad .......... it is entirely possible that she would describe herself as widow to people who did not know her.



Many people researching their ancestors have found that this has happened ...... it is far from uncommon.



It does sound much better to say one is a widow than a deserted wife, doesn't it???!!!

If she moved to another town, or another part of a large town, no-one would know any different, and she could live her life as a respectable widow, not a scorned wife ............. which would have been a social disgrace in those days.

Information on a death certificate is only that which is known to the informant ....... and I presume that information given to a solicitor etc regarding marital status is also likely to maintain the fiction.



sylvia

I am trying to find relatives of Arnold Butler, who died in Conway, Caernarvonshire, in 1971 aged 65. He was the husband of Milicent (MIllicent?) Porkess, whom he married in Glanford Brigg in 1930. I have been unable to find records of any children.
Arnold was born in Crosby, Lincoln, in 1906, the son of George William Butler and Florence Kendall.
Florence committed suicide around 1930. Probate records list her as a widow. However, I have proof that her husband was alive and living in Canada in 1922, where he married again and lived until his death at age 82 in 1961.
My goal is to find living relatives who may have heard family stories about this apparent contradiction. Many thanks to anyone who can help.