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29 Nov 2009 23:48 |
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Reg. District: Luton Sub District: Luton 1911
Parish: Luton Enum. District: 2 Address: 77 Park Road West Luton County: Bedfordshire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARDLE, Herbert Head Married 7 years M 32 1879 Bricklayer Kings Walden Herts
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARDLE, Jessie Wife Married F 31 1880 Chobham Surrey
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARDLE, Gwendoline Cecily Daughter F 6 1905 School Kings Walden Herts
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARDLE, Herbert Edward Son M 5 1906 School Luton Beds
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARDLE, Jack Son M 3 1908 Luton Beds
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARDLE, Edward George Son M 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Luton Beds
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARDLE, Sidney Nephew Single M 28 1883 Bricklayer Kings Walden Herts
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BURROWS, Jessie Strepdaughter F 10 1901 School Reigate Surrey
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GlitterBaby
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29 Nov 2009 23:46 |
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So we seem to be back to the question about the marriage cert and the name & occupation of her father on it
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GlitterBaby
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29 Nov 2009 23:40 |
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1881 wonder if this is the right family
Name: Edward George Barron Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Son Father's Name: Edward Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Chobham, Surrey, England Civil parish: Chobham County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address: Village Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Chertsey Sub-registration district: Chobham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edward Barron 35 - Chobham - occupation of builder Elizabeth Barrons 30 Edward George Barron 7 Elizabeth Caroline Barron 6 Emily Barron 4 William Barron 2 Charlotte Mary Barron 1 Infant Barron ------ could be Jessie but not named on image - 1 month Alice Sleet 11 Yes Burrows on image
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LiverBird1
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29 Nov 2009 23:40 |
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Births Jun 1881 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BURROWS Jessie Chertsey 2a 51
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GlitterBaby
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29 Nov 2009 23:38 |
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1891 poss
Name: Jessie Burrows Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Edward Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Chobham, Surrey, England Civil parish: Chobham Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Chobham County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Chertsey Sub-registration district: Chobham ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edward Burrows 45 born Chobham - occupation of builder Elizabeth Burrows 40 Edward Burrows 17 Elizabeth Burrows 16 William Burrows 12 Charlott Burrows 11 Jessie Burrows 10 Minnie Burrows 8 Ellen Burrows 5 Thos Burrows 3 Alfred Burrows 3/12
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LiverBird1
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29 Nov 2009 23:34 |
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1881 England Census about Jessie E. Burrows Name: Jessie E. Burrows Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: St Martin in The Fields County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 7 Upper St Martins Lane Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Strand Sub-registration district: St Martin In The Fields ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Burrows 40 Elizabeth Burrows 47 Minna M. Burrows 14 Martha J. Burrows 9 Rosetta Burrows 7 Ada S. Burrows 5 Jessie E. Burrows 3
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 328; Folio: 57; Page: 19;GSU roll: 1341071.
EDIT
Maybe not
Births Sep 1877 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Burrows Jessie Elisabeth Leighton Buzzard 3b 387
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Lindsey
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29 Nov 2009 23:33 |
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She definitely married Herbert Mardle as he is my paternal gt grandfather and my father has details of all the family on this side but there has always been a stigma with this Jane Ellen/Jessie Burrows. She had an illigitamate daughter called Jessie in 1901 and went to live with her sister in Chobham when her daughter was born.
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JaneyCanuck
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29 Nov 2009 23:32 |
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Births Dec 1883 BURROWS Jes*c Luton 3b 431
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GlitterBaby
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29 Nov 2009 23:32 |
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1901 Name: Jessie Burrows Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Relation: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Chobham, Surrey, England Civil parish: Chobham Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence Town: Chobham County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Chertsey Sub-registration district: Chobham ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Edward G Burrows 27 Chobham Harriet E Burrows 28 wife of Edward Agneta B Burrows 1 Jessie Burrows 20 Jessie Burrows 3/12 listed as niece
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GlitterBaby
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29 Nov 2009 23:29 |
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Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Burrows Edward Chertsey 2a 41 Cutler Emily Chertsey 2a 41 Healey William Chertsey 2a 41 Keen Elizabeth Chertsey 2a 41
So what info do you have to support the fact this couple might be her parents.
Where have you got place of birth as Chobham from?
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LiverBird1
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29 Nov 2009 23:29 |
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1911 basic search using Herbert in household
HOUSEHOLD MARDLE ELLEN F 1882 29 Elham Kent HOUSEHOLD MARDLE FLORENCE F 1881 30 Greenwich London HOUSEHOLD MARDLE HERBERT M 1879 32 Luton Bedfordshire HOUSEHOLD MARDLE JESSIE F 1880 31 Luton Bedfordshire HOUSEHOLD MARDLE SIDNEY M 1883 28 Luton Bedfordshire
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JaneyCanuck
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29 Nov 2009 23:27 |
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Marriages Dec 1903 BURROWS Jessie Hitchin 3a 1059 MARDLE Herbert Hitchin 3a 1059
Close, but not Luton. Again - when there's FreeBMD, there's no need for approximate info!
You need to get the marriage certificate for the father's name she reported on it.
The only births around the right time and place:
Births Jun 1881 BURROWS Jessie Chertsey 2a 51
Births Jun 1883 ) BURROWS Jessie Camberwell 1d 949
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Lindsey
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29 Nov 2009 23:24 |
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Her parents I believe are Edward Burrows/Elizabeth Keen and she had 13 siblings.
I have found her as Jessie Burrows and had a daughter of the same name. On her daughter's birth certificate she was named as Jane Ellen.
I am just unsure now of her proper birth name and how I can find out more about this picture. She married Herbert Mardle in 1903 in Luton.
Thank you so much! Lindsey
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brummiejan
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29 Nov 2009 23:23 |
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Think you're right Glitterbaby, though no Jane Ellen Burrows born 1881 in Surrey as far as I can see.
Take it you don't have her marriage cert? Could do with father's name.
Jan
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JaneyCanuck
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29 Nov 2009 23:23 |
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If Salford isn't our girl, how about this one in 1901?
It would really help to know what you know, Lindsey - like when the photo was taken.
Name: Jane E Barran [Jane E Burrows] - the name was mistranscribed; the Ancestry system has added Burrows purely because that's her mother's surname Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Jane Where born: Lambeth, London, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Jane Burrows 58 Alfred Burrows 23 Alice Worman 22 George J Worman 3 Jane E Barran 19 Frederick Ganard 3
GB - that's why I said the Salford birth didn't seem to be the right place.
Not much more can be done without some input from Lindsey.
There are two marriages for a Jane Ellen Burrows: Salford 1905 (so that seems to rule her out likely) and Burnley 1884 (totally wrong date and place).
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GlitterBaby
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29 Nov 2009 23:21 |
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I thought that Chobham was in Surrey
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brummiejan
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29 Nov 2009 23:17 |
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Is this her? No idea where Kings Walden or Chobham are!!
1891 England Census
Name: Jane Ellen Burrows Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Broughton Ecclesiastical parish: Church of the Ascension County/Island: Lancashire
Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Broughton [Near Salford]
William Burrows 45 Ellen Burrows 49 William Edward Burrows 21 John Thos Burrows 18 Henry Burrows 16 Minnie Burrows 14 Albert Burrows 11 Jane Ellen Burrows 10 Jan
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JaneyCanuck
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29 Nov 2009 23:12 |
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When we have FreeBMD there is usuallly no need for "c." birthdates.
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
Births Mar 1881 BURROWS Jane Ellen Salford 8d 147
That's the only birth with that name around that time, but the place doesn't match at all.
What is it you're looking to know -- parents and siblings?
The birth certifictae will say. Or Lancashire BMDs or baptism info (at Ancestry) may have the parents' names.
Have you found her in the 1881 census, free at Ancestry? Can you provide details from another census, whom/when/where she married ...?
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Lindsey
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29 Nov 2009 23:09 |
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Hi
My Gt Grandmother was born Jane Ellen Burrows but was known as Jessie in c.1881 Kings Walden or Chobham areas. I have a photograph of her that puts her at the St Paul's Kings Walden estate working as a servant. I have emailed Simon Bowes Lyon but unfortunately he is unable to trace either of the names.........I don't know which way to turn now as I do not have any family members left who knew her.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Lindsey
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