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Trying to find parents of William John Bastard Brock Born 1815 Torpoint. I know from his marriage cert his father was William and he was a seaman. Can anyone help please
Jeanette

I have had a look but cannot see anything yet

This page may help.

http://www.museumsincornwall.org.uk/museums/torpoint-archives

Can you give us All the details from the wedding cert please? - Names, ages, occupations, fathers, addresses, and witnesses.

We can then see if we are able to help.

Thanks,

Dea x

I have tried Torpoint Archives, they were unable to find anything. Details of marriage William Brock Full Age BrickLayer/Mason Dockyard. 16 Chapel St. Father William Brock Seaman
Elizabeth Rickard Full Age 17 Chapel Street Father Charles Rickard Collector of Tolls Witnesses George Evans John Launourlux )clk)
Date of marriage 28 June 1845 Stoke Dameral

There is this William in 1841 - no occupation in listed and the rest of the family are listed as being in the Navy

Name: William Brock
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England

Civil parish: St Jacob Anthony
Hundred: East (South Division)
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

View image

Registration district: St Germans
Sub-registration district: Antony
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Brock 60
William Crocke 30
Jane Crocke 30
Susanna Crocke 7
John Crocke 3
William Crocke 1

Thanks Jeanette,

I am looking but have not found anything for you yet.

I have them in 1851 but not for certain yet in 1841.

Dea x

I have done a street search for 1841 & 1851 on Chapel Street, Stoke Dameral...looking through the results now.

EDIT:

Nothing obvious comes up :(

T x

There are a number of people with him on ancestry but none have found a father.

I like K's 1841

I have found a William John Bastard Brock born 1815 Baptised in Stoke Dameral father William. Could this be the right one or could there realy be 2 William John Bastard Brocks born 1815
Jeanette

I know this is tenuous but keep it in mind as it may provide a clue.

1851 census - household transcription
Person: BASTARD, Prudence
Address: 63, Fore Street, Antony, Torpoint
BASTARD, Prudence Head Widow F 64 1787 Annuitant
Ship Wash
Devonshire
LANGMAID, Eliza Daughter Widow F 46 1805 Laundress
Devonport
Devonshire
LANGMAID, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Home
Torpoint
Cornwall
LANGMAID, Mary Ann Daughter F 12 1839 Home
Torpoint
Cornwall
LANGMAID, Ellen Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar
Torpoint
Cornwall

A possible brother????

1851 census - household transcription
Person: BROCK, A A A
Address: 18, Wellington Street, Antony, Torpoint
BROCK, Edward H Head Married M 33 1818 Tailor (Journeyman)
Torpoint
Cornwall
BROCK, A A A Wife Married F 33 1818
Wilcove
Cornwall
BROCK, Charles G Son M 8 1843 Scholar
Torpoint
Cornwall
BROCK, Edward Son M 6 1845 Scholar
Torpoint
Cornwall
BROCK, May W Daughter F 4 1847 Scholar
Torpoint
Cornwall
BROCK, Caroline W Daughter F 1 1850
Torpoint
Cornwall
WALKER, Caroline E Sister Unmarried F 20 1831 Schoolmistress
Stonehouse
Devonshire
SOLE, John Jeffery Lodger Unmarried M 40 1811 Solicitor Retired
Devonport
Devonshire VIEW
WEST, Lavina Servant F 12 1839 Solicitor Home Servant
Falmouth
Cornwall

This Rickard family also live on Fore Street but father's name is John.
Possibly related to Elizabeth?


1851 census - household transcription
Person: RICKARD, Jane
Address: 44, Fore Street, Antony, Torpoint
RICKARD, John Head Married M 48 1803 Carpenter
Saltash
Cornwall VIEW
RICKARD, Jane Wife Married F 48 1803
Lostwithiel
Cornwall VIEW
RICKARD, Charles Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Carpenter Ap
Torpoint
Cornwall VIEW
RICKARD, George Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Carpenter Ap
Torpoint
Cornwall VIEW
RICKARD, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 13 1838 Scholar
Torpoint
Cornwall VIEW
RICKARD, Joseph Son Unmarried M 11 1840 Scholar
Torpoint
Cornwall VIEW
RICKARD, James Son Unmarried M 7 1844 Scholar
Torpoint
Cornwall VIEW
RICKARD, Edwin Son M 5 1846 Scholar
Torpoint
Cornwall

Pudence in1841 same address

1841 census - household transcription
Person: BASTARD, Prudence
Address: Fore Street, Antony
BASTARD, Prudence F 55 1786 FREE
BASTARD, William M 30 1811 Cornwall FREE
BASTARD, Rebecca F 25 1816 Cornwall FREE
BASTARD, Emma F 2 1839 Cornwall FREE
LANGMEAD, Henry M 35 1806 Cornwall FREE
SHANNON, Eliza F 34 1807 Cornwall VIEW
SHANNON, ??? F 3 1838 Cornwall VIEW
SHANNON, J??? F 0 (6 months) 1841 Cornwall VIEW
PARKER, Eliza F 34 1807 Cornwall VIEW
PARKER, Jenny F 17 1824 VIEW
PARKER, John M 0 (7 months) 1841 Cornwall VIEW
???, ??? M 59 1782 Cornwall VIEW
???, ??? M 11 1830 Cornwall

On Ancestry the Rickard family has these names linked

Name: Jenny Bastard
Birth: Apr 1784 - Cornwall, England
Death: 1868 - Cornwall, England
Marriage: 26 Oct 1801 - Antony, Cornwall, England
Parents: William Bastard, Jenny Brock
Spouse: Charles Rickard

ELIZABETH BROCK Pedigree
Female

Birth: 06 JUN 1803

Christening: 26 JUN 1803 Antony, Cornwall, England

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BROCK Family
Mother: ANN BASTARD

Extracted birth or christening record
C053071

ANN BROCK Pedigree
Female

Birth: 14 OCT 1804

Christening: 25 DEC 1804 Antony, Cornwall, England
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BROCK Family
Mother: ANN BASTARD
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record C053071

And this is probably his father's baptism

WILLIAM BROCK Pedigree
Male
Birth:
Christening: 07 OCT 1753 Antony, Cornwall, England
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BROCK Family
Mother: ELISABETH

Extracted birth or christening record
C053071

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyCornwall.htm#A

Have fun!

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/Antony/index.html

Well, those Rickards who LK found are very probably related but I know where Elizabeth's mother was on 1851.

She was living a few doors away from William + Elizabeth and has their daughter (her grand-daughter) Jane staying with her overnight:

It is mistranscribed and a very poor image - perhaps someone would take a look just to confirm?

1851 England Census
about Jenny Richard Name: Jenny Richard (Image looks like Rickard!)
Age: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1784
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Wilcove, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Antony
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Registration district: St Germans
Sub-registration district: Anthony
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 251
Household Members: Name Age
Jenny Richard 67 widow ,Householder??
Jane Broek 2 grand-daughter

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1900; Folio: 152; Page: 53; GSU roll: 221051.

Oh - I see she is with them again on 1861 (properly transcribed this time) so you probably knew this already.

Anyway, I will post it for reference.

Still can't pin William down on 1841 though!!!

I will look some more, later.

Dea x