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Trying to find brothers

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Manderella

Manderella Report 28 Mar 2011 17:26

Hi,
I'm trying to find brothers John Sidney Bayliss and Harold Bayliss, born to parents John Bayliss of Yatton Herefordshire and Mary Bayliss of Totnes Devonshire.
I have found their birth records...
John Sidney Sep 1885 Paddington 1a 40
Harold sep 1886 Paddington 1a 52
I have found them both in the 1901 Census but can't find them on the 1911 Census.
Also I can't find out their Mother Mary's maiden name.
Any info gratefully received.
Thank you

Penny

Penny Report 28 Mar 2011 17:38

the best way , and most certain, is to buy one of theboys birth certs, for marys maiden name

Tania

Tania Report 28 Mar 2011 17:38

1891 England Census
about John Bayliss Name: John Bayliss
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Frances Bayliss
Gender: Male
Where born: Yatton, Herefordshire, England

Civil parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information.

Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Bayliss 30
Frances Bayliss 27
John S Bayliss 5
Harrold Bayliss 4
Frances M Bayliss 1



Tania

Tania Report 28 Mar 2011 17:51


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Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
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Skinner Frances Mary E Stepney 1c 801



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Tania

Tania Report 28 Mar 2011 17:55

Name: Frances Mary Elizabeth Skinner
Birth: Jan 1864 - Totnes, Devon

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 28 Mar 2011 17:56

Maybe?

Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
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BAYLISS John Stepney 1c 801
Driscoll James Stepney 1c 801
Harris Jane Stepney 1c 801
Skinner Frances Mary E Stepney 1c 801
SNELL Charlotte Louisa Stepney 1c 801

Manderella

Manderella Report 28 Mar 2011 18:06

Thank you all.
I still can't find any record of the Bayliss brothers John Sidney and Harold in 1911.
I know they didn't have children but not sure if either got married and I can't find any death records.
I have heard that they were useless scoundrels!
If they were in prison would there be a Census I can see?
Thanks again for the info already sent.
:)

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 28 Mar 2011 18:11

Baptism

Name: Harold Bayliss
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1886 ..............7 Aug 1886
Baptism Date: 17 Oct 1886
Father's Name: John Bayliss ...........a fitter
Mother's Name: Frances Mary Elizabeth Bayliss
Parish or Poor Law Union: Kensal Green St Jude
Borough: Westminster


Family lived at38 Walberton Road.

Gwyn

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 28 Mar 2011 18:39

Baptism

Name: John Sidney Bayliss
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1885 ...........17 July 1885
Baptism Date: 20 Sep 1885
Father's Name: John Bayliss ............sewing machine fitter
Mother's Name: Frances Mary Elizabeth Bayliss
Parish or Poor Law Union: Kensal Green St Jude
Borough: Westminster

Family lived at106 Ashman Road.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 28 Mar 2011 18:46

??????????

Deaths Jun 1921

Bayliss Frances M E 54 Brighton 2b 239

Who registered the death?

Gwyn

Tania

Tania Report 28 Mar 2011 18:49

Name: John S Bayliss
Birth: abt 1886
Death: Oct 1914 - Brighton, Sussex, East Sussex

tempest

tempest Report 28 Mar 2011 18:57

is this them on 1901 census
Address: 7, Carlton Street, Brighton

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

BAYLISS, John Head Married M 41 1860 Sewing Machine Fitter Yatton Herefordshire
BAYLISS, Mary Wife Married F 37 1864 Totnes Devonshire
BAYLISS, Sidney Son M 15 1886 Sewing Machine Fitter Paddington London
BAYLISS, Harold Son M 14 1887 Attendant On Ruling Machine Printer Paddington London
BAYLISS, Ruby Daughter F 10 1891 Brighton Sussex
BAYLISS, Edward Son M 7 1894 Brighton Sussex
BAYLISS, Leonard Son M 5 1896 Brighton Sussex
BAYLISS, Arthur Son M 3 1898 Brighton Sussex

tempest

tempest Report 28 Mar 2011 19:00

parents and siblings on 1911 census
Address: 4 White Street Brighton

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

BAYLISS, John Head Married M 48 1863 Sewing Machine Fitter Yatton Herefordshire
BAYLISS, Mary Wife Married 26 years F 45 1866 Totnes Devonshire
BAYLISS, Frances Ruby Daughter Single F 21 1890 College Student Teacher Brighton Sussex
BAYLISS, Charles Edward Son Single M 17 1894 Student In Training Brighton Sussex
BAYLISS, Douglas Leonard Son Single M 15 1896 Apprentice Brighton Sussex
BAYLISS, Arthur Leslie Son M 13 1898 Brighton Sussex
BAYLISS, William Reginald Son M 9 1902 Brighton Sussex

7 children born to marriage, all still alive in 1911

Manderella

Manderella Report 28 Mar 2011 19:03

Yes Tempest,
Thanks, that is them, I have this info.
:)

Manderella

Manderella Report 28 Mar 2011 19:09

Thanks Gwen and Tania for the Baptism and death info.
:)

Choccy

Choccy Report 28 Mar 2011 19:18




Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956

Name: Sydney Bayliss
Arrival Date: Nov 1908
Port of Arrival: St Albans, Vermont, United States
Age: 23
Birth Date: abt 1885
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Record Type: Manifests






UK address - St James Place, Brighton





Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956

Name: John Sidney Bayliss
Arrival Date: Aug 1913
Port of Arrival: St Albans, Vermont, United States
Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1887
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Record Type: Manifests


Father - John
UK address - 5 St James Place, Brighton





Manderella

Manderella Report 28 Mar 2011 19:31

Thank you Choccy,
Very interesting. Makes sense but it seems unlikely that the death Tania has mentioned Oct 1914 Brighton is the same person?
Very confused now and unsure of how to verify either.