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Hannibal Bartley landed at Post Adelaide in April 1849 with his wife Mary Anne. I am trying to find his children's details. I have found one only.That is William Bartley born 1850 at Broken Hill.
Any help would be welcome.
Brian Walton

This might point you in some direction...from a tree on Ancestry



William Bartley 1875 – Caroline Bartley 1877 – Josephus Bartley 1879 – 1937 Amy Bartley 1881 – Charles Henry Bartley 1883 – 1944 Hilda Bartley 1884 – Frank Guildford Bartley 1888 – 1983 Adolphus P Bartley 1891 – 1892 Elizabeth J Bartley 1893 – Adolphus J Bartley 1895 – 1895

Just checked the birth for Adolophus J Bartley and he has totally different parents to the above tree!

I dont know where they got there info from but it looks well dodgy!

Well the tree appears to have one thing right....


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Hannibal Bartley
Name: Hannibal Bartley
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Redruth (To 1974)
County: Cornwall
Volume: 9
Page: 335 Mary Ann Andrew(which the tree has) or Jane Murley Ann Simons Mary Towan Mary Towap

Thanks Ginny. Mary Anne Andrew is the correct wife. Double checking is so essential. Too many false trails.

Is this Marys death and do you know when Hannibal died?


Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007
about Mary Ann Bartley
Name: Mary Ann Bartley
Age: 65
Birth Date: abt 1833
Death Date: 11 Dec 1898
Cemetery: Springfield St Pauls Anglican Church & Cemetery
Cemetery Location: Scottsdale, Tasmania
Compiled By: Genealogical Society of Tasmania Inc

Mary Ann Died 3rd June 1889 aged 66. Hannibal died 20th Feb 1891 aged 69. They lived in Kersbrook,NSW and buried together in Kersbrook Cemetery. Still unable to find siblings and children.

Brian
Where did you get their death dates from? I can't find them on NSW BDM.

Cheers

Found them in Trove. An aussia newspaper. Just found Herbert Baldock Bartley,my Nephews Father in the Broken Hill cemetery records. Died 1981 aged 67.

Hi Brian.

South Australia passenger arrival:
BARTLEY Hannibal, Mary Ann nee ANDREW arrived in SA 1849-04-07 on David Malcolm from London v Plymouth [Source:4,6,7]


These are from the South Australian bdm Digger index.

Births registered in South Australia:

Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: William
Date: 1850-06-10
Sex: M
Father: Hannibal BARTLEY
Mother: Mary Ann ANDREW
Birth Place/Residence: Houghton
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 3


Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: George Andrew
Date: 1855-11-15
Sex: M
Father: Hannibal BARTLEY
Mother: Mary Ann ANDREW
Birth Place/Residence: Houghton Lodge
District Code: Ade
Symbol:
Book: 5
Page: 247
Cross Reference:

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George Andrew BARTLEY married Elizabeth BOOTH 8th Oct 1879. in S.A.

Groom: BARTLEY
Given names: George Andrew
Bride: BOOTH
Given names: Elizabeth
Date: 1879-10-08
Groom Age: 23
Status: S
Groom's Father: Hannibal BARTLEY
Bride Age: 23
Status: S
Bride's Father: George BOOTH
Place: Res of Elizabeth Booth [Norwood]
District: Ade
Symbol:
Book/Page: 121/84
Cross Reference:


Childrens births registered in South Australia ( MINLATON ) to George Andrew BARTLEY and Elizabeth BOOTH



Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: Elsie Marion
Date: 1880-07-03
Sex: M
Father: George Andrew BARTLEY
Mother: Elizabeth BOOTH
Birth Place/Residence: Minlaton
District Code: Dal
Symbol: E
Book: 245
Page: 421
Cross Reference:

Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: Frank Howard
Date: 1881-10-14
Sex: M
Father: George Andrew BARTLEY
Mother: Elizth BOOTH
Birth Place/Residence: Minlaton
District Code: Dal
Symbol:
Book: 271
Page: 462
Cross Reference:

Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: George Andrew
Date: 1882-11-22
Sex: M
Father: George Andrew BARTLEY
Mother: Elizabeth BOOTH
Birth Place/Residence: Minlaton
District Code: Dal
Symbol:
Book: 295
Page: 294
Cross Reference:

Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: Hilda Mary
Date: 1884-01-28
Sex: F
Father: George Andrew BARTLEY
Mother: Elizabeth BOOTH
Birth Place/Residence: Minlaton
District Code: Dal
Symbol:
Book: 321
Page: 145
Cross Reference:

Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: Ida Louise
Date: 1885-10-29
Sex: F
Father: George Andrew BARTLEY
Mother: Elizabeth BOOTH
Birth Place/Residence: Minlaton
District Code: Dal
Symbol:
Book: 363
Page: 397
Cross Reference:

Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: Lois Barnett
Date: 1895-11-05
Sex: F
Father: George Andrew BARTLEY
Mother: Elizabeth BOOTH
Birth Place/Residence: Minlaton
District Code: Dal
Symbol:
Book: 574
Page: 297
Cross Reference:

Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: Maurice Warminton
Date: 1894-09-16
Sex: M
Father: George Andrew BARTLEY
Mother: Elizabeth BOOTH
Birth Place/Residence: Minlaton
District Code: Dal
Symbol:
Book: 550
Page: 388
Cross Reference:

Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: Myra Leask
Date: 1891-07-12
Sex: F
Father: George Andrew BARTLEY
Mother: Elizabeth BOOTH
Birth Place/Residence: Minlaton
District Code: Dal
Symbol:
Book: 483
Page: 201
Cross Reference:

Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: William Percival
Date: 1888-08-09
Sex: M
Father: George Andrew BARTLEY
Mother: Elizabeth BOOTH
Birth Place/Residence: Minlaton
District Code: Dal
Symbol:
Book: 423
Page: 131
Cross Reference:

Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: Winifred Elizabeth
Date: 1887-04-19
Sex: F
Father: George Andrew BARTLEY
Mother: Elizabeth BOOTH
Birth Place/Residence: Minlaton
District Code: Dal
Symbol:
Book: 395
Page: 120
Cross Reference:

For Reference:
The town of MINLATON is approx 160kms west ( by road ) of Adelaide.


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William BARTLEY married Emily WRIGHT in South Aus....1893

Groom: BARTLEY
Given names: William
Bride: WRIGHT
Given names: Emily
Date: 1893-01-18
Groom Age: 42
Status: S
Groom's Father: Hannibal BARTLEY
Bride Age: 40
Status: S
Bride's Father: William WRIGHT
Place: Res of William Wright Inglewood
District: Hig
Symbol:
Book/Page: 174/216
Cross Reference:

No childrens births registered in South Australia to William BARTLEY and Emily WRIGHT ( 1893 - 1927 )


Tony ( Australia )

For reference: Kersbrook is in South Australia ( near Adelaide ) ..not New South Wales.

Deaths registered South Australia.

Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: Hannibal
Date: 1891-02-09
Sex: M
Age: 68y
Status: N
Relative: (not recorded)
Relative 2:
Residence: Kersbrook
Death Place: Kersbrook
District Code: Tal
Symbol:
Book: 191
Page: 240
Cross Reference:

Surname: BARTLEY
Given Names: Mary Ann
Date: 1889-06-03
Sex: F
Age: 66y
Status: M
Relative: Hannibal BARTLEY (H) = Husband
Relative 2:
Residence: Kersbrook
Death Place: Kersbrook
District Code: Tal
Symbol:
Book: 179
Page: 201
Cross Reference:

Tony

Hi Tony, Many thanks for the info.Very detailed and very helpful.Would you have any further info as to Hannibals Parents? Also Herbert Baldock Bartley born 01.09.1914.He was born two years before his Mother,Elizabeth Gladys Bartley married Oscar Edgar Ogden. Cannot find mention of Herberts biological Father. Can you help?
Regards,
Brian

Hi Tony, Many thanks for the info.Very detailed and very helpful.Would you have any further info as to Hannibals Parents? Also Herbert Baldock Bartley born 01.09.1914.He was born two years before his Mother,Elizabeth Gladys Bartley married Oscar Edgar Ogden. Cannot find mention of Herberts biological Father. Can you help?
Regards,
Brian

Hi Brian.

Cant help with U.K records/info regarding the parents of Hannibal BARTLEY.

Only reference i can see is that from a member on Ancestry au......that has his son George Andrew Bartley in his tree.

The information supplied by this member states:

From Ancestry au.( Member )

Hannibal Bartley

Birth 12 March 1822 in St Columb,Cornwall
Marriage: Mary Ann ANDREW 23rd Dec 1848
Died 9th Feb 1891 South Australia

Father:
William Bartley
Birth 15 Sep 1783 in St Columb, Cornwall, England

Mother:
Sophia Warmington
Birth abt 1794 in St Columb, Cornwall


England and Wales Free BDM ( Marriage )
Name: Hannibal Bartley
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Redruth
County: Cornwall
Volume: 9
Page: 335 (click to see others on page)



1851 Census of parents ( William & Sophia )

Name: William Bartley
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sophia Bartley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St Columb, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Mawgan in Pydar
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: St Columb
Sub-registration district: Padstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
William Bartley 69
Sophia Bartley 57
Mary Bartley 36


From Ancestry au. ( Member )

Siblings:
1812 – 1863 Thomas BARTLEY 1813 – Mary Bartley 1815 – 1887 Harriet BARTLEY 1817 – Dorothy BARTLEY 1820 – 1820 Hannibal Bartley 1822 – 1891 Joshua BARTLEY 1825 – Elizabeth BARTLEY 1827 – Dorothy Lagor BARTLEY 1829 – 1830 Jeremiah BARTLEY 1832 – Dorothy Lagor BARTLEY 1834 –

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Regarding Herbert Baldock Bartley born 01.09.1914

Birth records accessible by the general public for the state of NSW are only seachable up to 1910 ( assuming he was born in this state...NSW )

You appear to have a day,month and year ( 01.09.1914 )

Purchasing his Marriage cert and or death cert would perhaps give you more information about his parentage.


Its quite possible also,that he was born out of wedlock........before his parents marriage in 1916.
1914 WW1 ( Great War ) and Aussie history tells us many children born before there parents marriage, as their partners/spouses were off to the war.

You already have his marriage details on your other thread....so that would be my next move ( Purchase Marriage or death cert )

http://www.genesreunited.com/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/congdon/thread/1259229?d=desc



Tony

South Australian Register, Friday 20 February 1891, p.4
BARTLEY.— On the 9th February, at his residence, Kersbrook, Hannibal Bartley, of paralysis, aged 69 years. His end was peace. A colonist of 42 years.

South Australian Register, Tuesday 17 February 1891, p.3
Our correspondent at Kersbrook writes : — 'In the death of Mr. Hannibal Bartley this district has lost one of its oldest residents. Deceased was very highly respected. For 35 years ho had been one of the most active members of the local Wesleyan Church. The service at the funeral, which was largely attended, was conducted by the Rev. George Hall, Mr. Vercoe assisting. There are two sons surviving— Mr. George Bartley, of Minlaton, and Mr. William Bartley, of Kersbrook.'

The Adertiser, Wednesday 12 June 1918, p. 6
BARTLEY.-On the 8th June, at Northfield, William, the dearly loved husband of Emily Bartley, of Kersbrook, aged 68 years. At rest.

The Advertiser, Thursday 27 June 1918, p.4
Mr. William Bartley, who died at Kersbrook, was a son of Mr. Hannibal Bartley, who arrived in South Australia in 1849, and took up his residence at Kersbrook in 1857, when Mr. William Bartley was seven years of age. The latter filled every office in the Methodist Church, as lay preacher, class leader, steward, and Sunday-school superintendent. He was a prominent Rechabite, and was secretary and treasurer of the Kersbrook Lodge for 25 years. He was a member of the Gumeracha School Board of Advice for 20 years, and afterwards member of Kersbrook School Committee, as well as of the Institute and Literary Society. He was president of the Liberal Union for six years. Mr. Bartley left a widow (daughter of Mr. William Wright, of Inglewood), and one brother, Mr. George Bartley, of Glenelg.

South Australian Register, Wednesday 5 November 1879, p.4
MARRIAGES.
BARTLEY— BOOTH.-On the 8th October, at the residence of the bride's mother, Kensington-terrace, Norwood, by the Bev. Thos. Hope, George A., younger son of H. Bartley, Kersbrook, to Elizabeth, eldest daughter of the late G. Booth.

South Australian Register, Friday 22 March 1895
To-day, before Mr. F. Norton, J.P., George Andrew Bartley, of Minlaton, was charged with being a pauper lunatic. Dr. Allwork was called, and after examination he gave a certificate of lunacy. Bartley was sent to the Asylum.

The Mail, Saturday 18 September 1926
BARTLEY.— On September 17, at his daughter's residence, Clarence Park, George Andrew, beloved husband of Elizabeth Bartley, Alison street, Glenelg. Aged 70 years. Peace, perfect peace.

The Advertiser, Friday 30 March 1934
BARTLEY.—On the 29th March, at private hospital, Westboume Park, Elizabeth, relict of George Andrew Bartley, loving mother of G. A. (Drew), W. P. (Jock), Maurice, Elsie, Lois, Winnie, son-in-laws Jim Haynes and Ern Barrett, aged 77 years.

From: http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

Bartley Frank Howard : SERN 4500 : POB Minlaton SA : POE Adelaide SA : NOK F Bartley George A

Frank was a railway employee; he was KIA. His father's address was given as St Leonards, Glenelg, SA.

There are several Bartleys with birthplace as Broken Hill NSW.