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Meanwhile, any response from Carolyn?

Lesley, I don't think there's any reason to think these two families are connected - ?

You need to start your own thread. On the left, click on Trying to Find. Then click on Add Topic at the top. Make sure your subject line is informative *and includes the surname Hudson*, even if you see it above the subject line.

Something like

Olive May Hudson married Speechly 1901-1905?

And be sure to be clear (can't tell whose 21st birthday that was), and also be clear about what you want to find.

But first, go here:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

and search for

marriages
surname Hudson
spouse's surname Speechly
1895-1910

-- there is no Hudson-Speechly marriage in England.

Try searching in that period just for the marriage of an Olive Hudson. There was no Olive Hudson married to anyone resembling Frederick Speechly. So the marriage didn't happen in England. Of course, maybe you know where the marriage happened and just didn't say. See what I mean about complete info?

You can also search for the birth of an Olive Hudson; I tried 1870-1890. There were numerous Olives, including and Olive Mary, but no Olive May specifically.

I had a look here

http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/index.php

for Speechly.

Ecclesiastical records > Marriages > Bombay Marriages : Index of Ecclesiastical returns
Entry from Transcription of Marriage Indexes 1894-1909
Year of marriage 1905
Surname SPEECHLY
First name Frederick
Surname HUDSON
First name Olive

Do have a browse at that site and see what you might find.

In my family tree I have a Olive May Hudson who married Fredrick Edward Speechly about 1901-1905, then Fredrick Edward Speechly remarried to Phyllis Rebecca Hillier. I think it was on her birthday in 1921, Bombay India. Can you shed any light on this family, as it would be a great help and then I can finish my family tree. Olive May Hudson could have come from England.

Regards
Lesley

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ANN BOOTH ATKIN Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
16 SEP 1837 Sunderland, Durham, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN ATKIN Family
Mother: ANN ROBSON

Whoever it was, it was her first marriage:


Births Sep 1837
Atkin Ann Booth Sunderland 24 197

Checked the image at Ancestry, which is usually better than FreeBMD.

It is JAMES HUDSON ATKIN, vol 10a, page 115.

this question is who did she marry:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Ann Booth Atkin
Name: Ann Booth Atkin
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Houghton Le Spring
County: Durham
Volume: 24
Page: 182

Births Sep 1862
ATKIN James Halson Hartlepool * *


Better check that image ...

Something wrong on this marriage

Marriages Jun 1851 (>99%)
ATKIN Ann Booth Houghton le Sp 24 182 Scan available - click to view
Bach Jane Houghton le S 24 182 Scan available - click to view
Pinkney Thomas Newrick Houghton le Sp 24 182 Scan available - click to view
Ramshaw Mary Ann Houghton le Sp. 24 182 Scan available - click to view
Smithson Robert Healey Houghton le S 24 182 Scan available - click to view

Ah, I was overtaken by events. Seems my original thought was closer to the facts, likely. ;)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Ann Booth Atkin
Name: Ann Booth Atkin
Year of Registration: 1837
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 24
Page: 197

Have you considered this fellow in 1871?


Name: James A Hudson
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Where born: Ns
Civil Parish: Aldershot
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England


Father's name is not James. One of Ancestry's standard messups.


William Hudson 36 - soldier, private, born Leeds
Sarah Hudson 36 - born Leeds
John W Hudson 14 - born Yorkshire
Mary Hudson 11 - born Aldershot
Francis H Hudson 7 - born Nova Scotia
James A Hudson 6 - born Nova Scotia
Augustus Hudson 4 - born Canada
Fanny Hudson 3 - born Canada
Herbert Hudson 1 - born Jersey, Channel Islands



Part of a long list of military families, and the first name on the list happens to be a James.

Theres a tree on ancestry with father only of the same name.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Samuel Moss
Name: Samuel Moss to Ann Booth Hudson
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Stockton
County: Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 10a
Page: 115

Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
Buller Lucy Stockton 10a 115 Scan available - click to view
Hudson Ann Booth Stockton 10a 115 Scan available - click to view
MOSS Samuel Stockton 10a 115 Scan available - click to view
Ward Patrick Stockton 10a 115 Scan available - click to view

Hmmm How about this one:


1871 England Census
about James H Atkin
Name: James H Atkin
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Ann B
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Stockton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Stockton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Stockton
Sub registration district: Stockton
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 74
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Moss 28
Ann B Moss 32
Joseph Moss 11 months
James H Atkin 8

I suspect his birth surname was Aitken, and Hudson the name of a stepfather, or his real father's name, if he was registered under his mother's name. Or something of that variety.


1881

Name: James A. Hudson
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane A.
Where born: W Hartlepool, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Westgate
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: 53 Thornton St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Hairdresser

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne

James A. Hudson 18
Jane A. Hudson 16


Household in 1891:

James A Hudson 28
Jane A Hudson 26
Annie B Hudson 8
Edith Hudson 3
Jane Hudson 1



In any event, the marriage certificate will (hopefully) give you his father's name, which you can then use to search further.

Marriage; timeframe helps.

Marriages Mar 1881
HENDERSON Jane Ann Newcastle T. 10b 55
HUDSON James Atkin Newcastle T. 10b 55


When she appears with 8 children, is she widowed? What years? Or do you mean you know her name and the children's names, but can't find any of them in a census?

I am trying to find the parents and family members of my greatgrandfather, James Aitken Hudson, born 1864 in West Hartlepool. We have searched through censuses and records, but have only his wife, Jane Henderson, and 8 children. Can anyone help?