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Phillip
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29 Mar 2023 21:23 |
Hi - I have John Teppet marrying Mary Rogers on 19 February 1803 in St Columb Major - should be Tippet.
There may be three baptisms in 1804, 1806 and 1809 but I am trying to find out what happened to JAMES.
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Phillip
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29 Mar 2023 21:23 |
Day Month 14-Jan Year 1821 Parish Circuit Or Chapel Probus Forename James Surname TIPPETT Sex Age Or Date Of Birth Father Forename John Mother Forename Mary Residence Tresowga Parish Status Or Occupation Labourer Where Baptised
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29 Mar 2023 21:24 |
Day Month 30-Nov Year 1844 Parish Circuit Or Chapel Ladock Groom Fn James Groom Sn TIPPETT Groom Age full age Groom Residence Ladock Groom Condition Bachelor Groom Rank Profession Labourer Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) Groom Father Name John Tippett Groom Father Rank Profession Labourer Bride Fn Mary Bride Sn MERRIFIELD Bride Age full age Bride Residence Ladock Bride Condition Spinster Bride Rank Profession Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) Bride Father Name John Merrifield Bride Father Rank Profession Labourer Banns / Licence (B/L) Witness Fn1 Ann Witness Sn1 Berck Witness Fn2 John Witness Sn2 Merrifield
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Phillip
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29 Mar 2023 21:26 |
This is him in 1841 Name James Tippett Age 20 Estimated Birth Year abt 1821 Gender Male Where born Cornwall, England Civil parish Probus Hundred Powder (West Division) County/Island Cornwall Country England Registration district Truro Sub-registration district Probus Neighbors View others on page Piece 148 Book 5 Folio 19 Page number 10 Household Members (Name) Age Lacclens Miners 40 Elizabeth Miners 30 Jane Miners 6 John Miners 4 Mary Miners 9 Mo James Tippett 20
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Phillip
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29 Mar 2023 21:27 |
Elizabeth Miners is his sister. Day Month 12-Apr Year 1834 Parish Circuit Or Chapel Ladock Groom Fn Zaccheus Groom Sn MINERS Groom Age Groom Residence otp Groom Condition Groom Rank Profession Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) M Groom Father Name Groom Father Rank Profession Bride Fn Elizabeth Bride Sn TIPPET Bride Age Bride Residence sojourner otp Bride Condition Bride Rank Profession Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) M Bride Father Name Bride Father Rank Profession Banns / Licence (B/L) B Witness Fn1 William Witness Sn1 Miners Witness Fn2 John Witness Sn2 Tippet
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Phillip
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29 Mar 2023 21:32 |
James and Mary have two children - Jane in 1846, in Ladock. Elizabeth in 1847 but she dies after a few days.
No sign of them in 1851 - cannot find any deaths, remarriages or ventures abroad.
Have come across a death for James Tippet in April 1860 when the "Romance of the Lee" sinks - he is an "apprentice"....
Phil
Thank you
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ArgyllGran
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29 Mar 2023 22:51 |
For our reference:
Vital • England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name Jane Tippett Sex Female Christening Date 23 Nov 1845 Christening Place Ladock, Cornwall, England, United Kingdom Christening Place (Original) Ladock, Cornwall, England Father's Name James Tippett Father's Sex Male Mother's Name Mary Mother's Sex Female Event Type Christening
However, I don't think Elizabeth was their child. There's no father mentioned on the baptism record, implying that this child was illegitimate:
Elizabeth Tippet Vital • England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 View Record Name Elizabeth Tippet Sex Female Christening Date 30 Jul 1847 Christening Place Ladock, Cornwall, England, United Kingdom Christening Place (Original) Ladock, Cornwall, England Mother's Name Mary Tippet Mother's Sex Female Event Type Christening
EDIT: Ah, but here's her birth - she was indeed their daughter:
TIPPETT, ELIZABETH mmn MERRIFIELD GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in TRURO UNION Volume 09 Page 291
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ArgyllGran
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29 Mar 2023 22:55 |
Mary and Jane in 1851:
Jane Tippit in the 1851 England Census Name: Jane Tippit Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Granddaughter Mother's Name: Mary Tippit Gender: Female Where born: Ladock, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Ladock County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration District: Truro Sub-registration District: Probus ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 14 Piece: 1909 Folio: 55 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age John Merrifild 71 Betsey Merrifild 63 Mary Tippit 33 Jane Tippit 5
Address: Bissick
Mary is said to be married, not widowed.
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ArgyllGran
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29 Mar 2023 23:08 |
Another child who died - apparently Elizabeth's twin:
TIPPETT, CHARLOTTE mmn MERRIFIELD GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in TRURO UNION Volume 09 Page 292
TIPPETT, CHARLOTTE 0 GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in TRURO UNION Volume 09 Page 169
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ArgyllGran
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29 Mar 2023 23:20 |
Trees on Ancestry claims that this is Mary's death - but without proof:
TIPPETT, MARY 58 GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in SAINT COLAMB MAJOR Volume 05C Page 71
None show her on censuses after 1851.
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ArgyllGran
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30 Mar 2023 00:09 |
I would be inclined to think that the 1860 death you found for a James Tippett isn't the correct one.
He would be unlikely to be an apprentice at age 39-ish.
HOWEVER _ The image of this record doesn't say he was an apprentice:
James Tippett in the UK, Registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, 1844-1890 Name: James Tippett Event Type: Death Death Date: 9 Feb 1860 Ship: Romance of the Seas
" Drowned. Coast of Africa. Vessel lost."
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ArgyllGran
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30 Mar 2023 00:21 |
Can't find anything on Google about the Romance of the Seas.
I wonder if this is supposed to be her - though the date is given here as 5th Feb 1860:
Romance of the Lee United Kingdom The ship was driven ashore and wrecked 200 nautical miles (370 km) west of Alexandria, Egypt with the loss of all but two of her crew. She was on a voyage from Constantinople, Ottoman Empire to an English port. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_February_1860
On looking at the death record again, the name of the ship does look like Romance of the Lee - or possibly Sea. There's certainly no "s" at the end of the word.
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Phillip
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30 Mar 2023 09:06 |
Thank you very much for the twin find.
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ArgyllGran
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30 Mar 2023 10:28 |
What record did you find saying that the man who died in 1860 was an apprentice?
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Phillip
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30 Mar 2023 11:00 |
It was via the newspaper archive. I'm like you - hard to believe he would be an apprentice at that age.
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31 Mar 2023 16:51 |
Serious fears are entertained that the well known American clipper ship Romance of the Seas, which has often been to the Thames, has foundered, with all on board. She sailed from Hong Kong on the 31st of December, since which time not the least tidings has been heard of her. The Romance of the Seas was one of the crack ships of Boston, and has made many successful trips from China. She was about 1,500 tons burden, and was largely insured.
05 July 1863 - Weekly Dispatch (London) - London, London, England
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alviegal
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31 Mar 2023 17:01 |
Loss of the British Ship Romance of the Lee. Her Majesty's Vice-Consul at Alexandria has forwarded a despatch to the Board of Trade, announcing the total loss of the brig Romance of the Lee, Captain G. Havelock, belonging to Cork, 07 April 1860 - Newcastle Guardian and Tyne Mercury - Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland
This mentions James Tippett, apprentice as one of the deceased. The brig was bound for Falmouth.
From the report of William Husband, one of the survivors.
Capt Havelock, master; Mr. W.H. Ireton, mate : Simon Byrne, cook and steward ; William Carson and William Irvine, seamen; and James Tippett, boy. 11 April 1860 - The Cornish Telegraph - Penzance, Cornwall, England
I would think this is definitely not the correct person.
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Phillip
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31 Mar 2023 21:00 |
Yes. Without a doubt.
Thank you very much for this. One eliminated!
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ArgyllGran
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31 Mar 2023 22:52 |
In 1851 Mary is said to be married.
But she could well have been separated or widowed.
Possible second marriage ???
Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%) Harris Isaac Truro 5c 327 Tippet Mary Truro 5c 327
Mary Harris in the 1861 England Census Name: Mary Harris Gender: Female Age: 41 Relation: Wife Estimated Birth Year: 1820 Where born: Ladock, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Ladock County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Truro Sub-registration district: Probus ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 2 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Isaac Harris 38 Head Mary Harris 41 Wife
Mary Harris in the 1881 England Census Name: Mary Harris Age: 62 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: Isic Harris Gender: Female Where born: Ladock, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Ladock County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Bissick Marital status: Married Occupation: Agricultral Labourer Wife Registration District: Truro ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: Piece: 2306 Folio: 56 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Isic Harris 58 Mary Harris 62
Mary Harris in the 1881 England Census Name: Mary Harris Age: 62 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: Isic Harris Gender: Female Where born: Ladock, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Ladock County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Bissick Marital status: Married Occupation: Agricultral Labourer Wife Registration District: Truro ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: Piece: 2306 Folio: 56 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Isic Harris 58 Mary Harris 62
Mary A Harris in the 1891 England Census Name: Mary A Harris Gender: Female Age: 71 Relationship: Wife Birth Year: 1820 Spouse: Isaac Harris Birth Place: Ladock, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Ladock Residence Place: Bissick, Ladock, Cornwall, England Registration district: Truro Sub registration district: Probus ED, Institution or Vessel: 5 Neighbors: Piece: 1826 Folio: 51 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Isaac Harris 68 Head Mary A Harris 71 Wife [ no middle name at marriage or other census ]
Isaac Harris in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Isaac Harris Age: 73 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Death Registration Place: Truro, Cornwall, United Kingdom Death Date: Sep 1895 Inferred Death Place: Cornwall, United Kingdom Volume: 5c Page: 72
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1 Apr 2023 00:28 |
In 1871 there is an Isaac Hanis, 47, with Mary Hanis, 49 and Grandson James J Tippett, possibly the illegitimate son of daughter Jane?
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