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Thanks so much for this info Austin, it's definitely the same family. I am going to have a good look at this tomorrow. Something else to get my teeth into.
And thanks too Chris, I never thought of doing that, der!
Jan x

Possible burial for child Harriet:

Name: Harriet Street
Birth Year: abt 1848
Burial Date: 4 Apr 1849
Burial Place: Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire, England
Burial Age: 9 months
Abode: Hennage Street
Reference Number: DRO 34
Archive Roll: M126

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1360215

(other 'Thread' Jan, if you couldn't find, comes up on google)

(1841 had Eliza/Family as Excloston, FMP)

Chris :)

Edits

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1844

BANNER Ann Catherine Tutbury Newcastle-Under-Lyme T/003

http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Another child born 1842 & 1848?

STREET, JAMES WILLIAM ECCLESTONE
GRO Reference: 1840 D Quarter in ASTON UNION Volume 16 Page 181

STREET, - ECCLESTONE
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in ASTON UNION Volume 16 Page 181

STREET, HARRIET ECCLESTONE
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in ASTON UNION Volume 16 Page 213
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Also these births that fit inbetween, but don't know if they are connected. I don't see a Banner/ Eccleston marriage that fits- (although area fits with where james was living in 1841).

BANNER, - ECCLESTON
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT UNION Volume 17 Page 26

BANNER, ANN CATHERINE ECCLESTON
GRO Reference: 1844 D Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT UNION Volume 17 Page 22

Catherine, thanks for that. I have William up till 1861. He disappears after this.
As I say, if you need a challenge, any trace of Eliza after 1841 or William after 1861 would be very much appreciated!
Jan x

Oh, yes so we did. :-D

I have to go and get dinner ready now so will maybe have a look later.

Here's William from 1841 census in 1851 with his grandparents

Castle Yard, Aston Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

James Eccleston Head Married Male 66 1785 Gun Stocker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Ann Eccleston Wife Married Female 67 1784 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
William Street Grand Son - Male 10 1841 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
John Summers Lodger - Male 12 1839 Gun Stocker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Christopher Harris Lodger Married Male 34 1817 Tailor Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Harris Lodger Married Female 39 1812 - Bemerton, Gloucestershire, England
John Harris Lodger - Male 5 1846 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Emma Harris Lodger - Female 3 1848 - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

Sorry, we crossed posts there! :-)

Thank you Catherine, I though so! Pinned him down at last I think.
Much appreciated.

Re. Eliza, I have all her family details, parents siblings etc., so please don't trouble yourself with trying to research this.

I can't find her after 1841 though, if you fancy a challenge! She seems to have also adopted the banner name at this point, though son William reverts to Street in 1851 & 1861.

Just be aware I might have posted about her before, but for the life of me can't find the thread (even if it exists!).

1841

Name: Eliza Banner
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821

Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston and Nechells

James Eccloston 55
Ann Eccloston 55
William Eccloston 15
Eliza Banner 20
William Banner 6 Mo
John Somers 3

Jan x

This looks to be Eliza, with her family but no sign of James

1841
Name: Eliza Banner
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston and Nechells
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1149
Book: 5
Folio: 12
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
James Eccloston 55 - (looks like) Gun Stocker
Ann Eccloston 55
William Eccloston 15

Eliza Banner 20
William Banner 6 Mo

John Somers 3

(Did they have a son William?)

Address could be Heneage Street ?

Or is it Henery Street?

Wow, that's very faint but definately Glass Blower for me.

Posting marriage in case they are with her family (is this the one?)

First name(s) James
Last name Street
Name note -
Marriage year 1840
Marriage date 28 Jul 1840
Marriage place Aston Juxta Birmingham
Spouse's first name(s) Eliza
Spouse's last name Ecclestone
County Warwickshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain


Where and when was Eliza born please?

Please could someone check this? The image is terrible, but I think his occ just might be glassblower? Thank you! x

1841 England Census

Name: James Banner
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Tutbury
Hundred: North Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Tutbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 976
Book: 25
Folio: 17
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Fanny Hodgkinson 15
Ann Redfern 55
William Croxall 5
William Kosley 20
James Banner 20
John Staton 20
William Turner 35

Thank you very much everyone. The family is definitely the right one, but the person I am looking for isn't with them it seems.

His name was James Street born 1820, illegitimate son of Harriet, who then married Mr. Banner. James seems to have used either surname after this.

James married Eliza Eccleston(e) prior to 1841 census, using surname Street, then nipped off! The address on the cert is Henry St., hence my query. I just wondered if he might be with his family.

I have everything about him bar where he is in 1841! He appears as James Banner 1851 onwards.

He was a glassblower, just in case anyone goes looking!

Jan x :-( :-(

Good girl PH! Sorry if it sounded harsh :-D

Thank you Austin.

I will go sit on the bottom of our stairs.

:-D

PH, they're all in the same household

There are nine 1841 census records on FMP of Banner's living in Henry Street Court, Aston, Warwickshire.

Yes, this family is on Henry Street. James is a carter, John is a glass maker, Thomas is a Boy something - can't make it out:


James Banner
in the 1841 England Census
Name: James Banner
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston and Nechells
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1149
Book: 11
Folio: 43
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
James Banner 40
Harriet Banner 40
John Banner 15
Henry Banner 15
Thomas Banner 14
George Banner 9
Benjamen Banner 6
Alfred Banner 4
Edwin Banner 1 4 Mo


EDIT:
Snap, AQ!

Nothing coming up for surname Street on FMP