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Sorry, Erin - I overlooked your question about the details on her DC.

They are:
Place of death: Poulton cum Seacombe.
Informant: Elizabeth Dodd, present at the death, same address.

Thank you. :-)

Christian and Christina are very often interchanged in Scotland - just like Jane and Jean or Janet and Jessie. That's just a couple of examples but I'm sure those researching Scottish ancestors can come up with more. My 4 x Great grandmother sometimes gives her name as Elizabeth and at other times she's Isabella. I also have an Alexander who, apart from his christening and birth records, always appears as Allan.

One should also supplement the GRO index with a local index, when available, see:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd

In this case, we have:
Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
HERVEY Christian 65 Wallasey Wirral WAL/3/84

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Wallasey Sub-District
Created 1 July 1837. Abolished 1 April 1974. In Wirral Registration District (1837-61), Birkenhead Registration District (1861-1936) and Wallasey Registration District (1936-74).

[It included] Bidston cum Ford (1837-61 & 1936-74), Claughton cum Grange (1837-61), Liscard, Moreton (1928-74), Poulton cum Seacombe, Saughall Massie (1933-74), Wallasey.

Records now held at Wirral.
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/subdists.php

Re: Christian/Christina

My grandad's aunt was named Christian, after her gran (and my ggg gran).

Piece: SCT1851/218 Place: Longside -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Longside Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 176 Page: 21 Schedule: 100
Address: Hill Of Mintlaw
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SLESSOR William Head M M 66 Farmer Of 15 Acres & Carrier Aberdeenshire - Longside
SLESSOR Christian Wife M F 52 Aberdeenshire - Old Deer
SLESSOR Mary Dau U F 26 Aberdeenshire - Longside
Page: 176/22 SLESSOR John D Son U M 17 Farmer & Carrier's Son Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG Christian Grndau - F 2 Aberdeenshire - Longside

Fe appears as Christian in 1861/71, but when my g grandad married in 1877, she signs as Christina (she was a witness), and appears as Christina thereafter.

It seems that Christian was once the common form of the name, but was replaced by Christine/Christina in the latter part of the 19th cent.
To catch the 3 forms, I looked up "christ*" on the Scottish census, and got 34956 hits (1841), 43153 hits (1871), 55695 hits (1901).
There was 64.3%, 14.7%, 4.5% of these hits having the spelling Christian.
The 1841 fiures for England were 2568 and 87.2%. I also looked up what 1841 percentage of Christians were male - 9% in England, but 0.6% in Scotland (which could all be mistakes - this item was not always filled in carefully).
I suspect Kristen is the most common variant for the 21st cent.

One orthographical oddity - I have seen Christian written twice as Xian, much like Christmas is written as Xmas.

Evening Nicola......What address do you have for Christna and who Reg the death....?

Was there a family plot where either her parents or siblings were buried? Could she have been taken there?

We do sometimes assume that not only have all PR survived, but that they're also all on line. Accidents have happened where they've suffered damage or destruction. There are still some churches who have refused to send their completed registers to the archives.
It's about that period that councils started to open municipal cemeteries. Have you considered that route?

No go on Lancs OPC for her burial.

Any help available on this one please? There was 'money' and so I think she would have had a proper burial!
:-)

Thank you Malyon.
Have tried to find out more on both those website links but no joy. :-(
Wonder whether there's another avenue? I will try Lancs OPC tomorrow.
N

there is this web site

http://forebears.co.uk/england/lancashire/poulton
http://www.historyofwallasey.co.uk/wallasey/Wallasey_Churches_Poulton_cum_Seacombe/index.html

I've posted this q and a on to this thread as well as the 'Scottish Hervie's' other post of mine - for completeness.

"Update: CHRISTIAN/CHRISTINA Hervey :-)
I have Christian's/Christina's DC in front of me now.

She died on 24th June 1850 and her first name is CLEARLY written as CHRISTIAN, aged 65, daughter of James Hervey, Merchant (deceased). So it all adds up and is deffo the right gal.

However, her cause of death is an odd one and I've tried googling it without success. It states 'Scirrus. 5 years. Certified'. The writing is very clear - makes a nice change - but I can get nothing up on what s.c.i.r.r.u.s. might be. Any medicos out there, please?
%3A-%29


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report Mark this as answered 11 Sep 2016 16:28

Scirrhus - Cancerous tumors

http://www.comportone.com/cpo/genealogy/articles/names_illinesses.htm

(from above, Old Names for
Illnesses and Causes of Death)

Chris :)"

And now I am wondering how I could find her burial?? She died at "Poolton-cum-Seacombe" and could be buried under either of those first names I suppose, odd though it sounds!!

I am hoping for a headstone ...............
:-)

That is SO KIND of you. You're always there for me - don't resign!!
:-D

Nicola...I have all your Hervey et al posts going back to the beginning so just shout and I will link you to the appropriate thread if your stuck.

"Advanced Search" hasn't worked for years, Nicola, in spite of lots of complaints about it.
It's not even worth trying it!

hervey Nicola s genes

(try adding above on google search, Nicola, they will all come up. GR search waste of time, lol)

Chris :)

Erin, you have come to the rescue - again. Thank you.

For some reason, my GR won't allow me to 'search' for past names on the posts. It just whirls around and around and never gets anywhere.

I had the Christina in 1841 and also an entry in the Chester Gazeteer which shows 'the Misses Hervey' running the Boarding School in Neston [Wirral].

Annoyingly she died in 1850, the year before the next census ............... :-(

Christina in 1841 census



Christina Hervey

England and Wales Census, 1841

Name Christina Hervey
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Neston, Cheshire, England
Residence Note Ashfield House
Gender Female
Age 45-49
Age (Original) 45
Birth Year (Estimated) 1792-1796
Birthplace Scotland
Registration District Wirrall
Book Number 8
Parish Neston
County Cheshire
Page Number 17
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 124/11
Affiliate Record Type Household



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Christina Hervey F 45-49 Scotland xxxxxx
Jane Hervey F 40-44 Scotland
Jane Hervey F 35-39 Scotland
Emily Marshall F 15-19 Foreign
Mary Binns F 15-19
Dora Hall F 15-19
Elizabeth Hodgson F 15-19
Elizabeth Woodall F 14
Mary Pilling F 14
Caroline Salusbury F 13
Ann Davies F 30-34
Elizabeth Speed F 30-34 Cheshire

Nicola ...Go to your post May 2016 and you will see on the 12th May 23.43 GlasgowLass posted details of Christina/Christian's Death Reg. so I think you can be sure its Christina

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1359821?page=0

born 7th feb 1799

Deaths Mar 1859 (>99%)

Hervey Thomas Kibble Pancras 1b 125

On 17 Oct. 1843 he married Eleanor Louisa (b. 1811), daughter of George Conway Montagu of Lackham, Wiltshire

Thank you all.
I'm going to have to take the plunge and order 'Christian's' DC - digits crossed. I had already decided this was the only way but hoped that you amazing GR's might winkle something out of the depths!!
Will update this post when I receive the DC.
:-D

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/wirral.html

says Wirral includes the parish of Poulton cum Seacombe