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Death records for Rees and William Watkins

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SimontheScholar

SimontheScholar Report 27 Apr 2015 22:40

Hello

I was wondering if someone could be able to find a death record for Rees Watkins and his son William Watkins, both of them were born and died in Neath.

Rees was born in 1744, whilst William was born in 1775.

I checked a death of a William Watkins in free bmd in 1842 and he can be discounted as he is the wrong person

my thanks

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Apr 2015 22:43

If you can't find burial records, how do you know where they died?

What else do you know about the son?

Did he marry? Did he father any legitimate children?

How did you work back to these two?

Have you looked for info at familysearch?

Unless either lived till after July 1837. there won't be death records

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Apr 2015 23:00

for INFO

Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers
Name: William Watkin
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 1775
Event Place: Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
Father's Name: Rees
Mother's Name: Mary

SimontheScholar

SimontheScholar Report 27 Apr 2015 23:03

Burial records I mean

Rees married Mary Evan in Neath and had several children, one of them was William. I worked back using baptism and marriage records, which date back to the 1730s

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Apr 2015 23:05

I meant through which person did you get back........perhaps I should have been more explicit

malyon

malyon Report 27 Apr 2015 23:12

hi rees died in neath in 1839

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Apr 2015 23:14



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Name: Rees Watkins
Death: Jul 1839 - Neath, Glamorganshire




Deaths Sep Qtr 1839
Watkins Rees - Neath 26 286 <<< certificate ref No.

SimontheScholar

SimontheScholar Report 27 Apr 2015 23:15

I am sorry Jacqueline, I do not understand what you mean.

malyon

malyon Report 27 Apr 2015 23:19

there are a few william watkins death's in neath

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Apr 2015 23:23

When you asked is someone could find a death record for Rees I assumed you didn't know when he died.

By " death record" do you mean his death certificate or burial place ?

SimontheScholar

SimontheScholar Report 27 Apr 2015 23:26

Sorry when I meant death record, I meant the year he died

The 1839 death could be him, but he would be nearly 95

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Apr 2015 23:28

Is this your William ?

Name:
William Watkins

Birth: Abt 1775 - Breconshire, Wales
Death: July 1857 (Jul 1857) - Neath
Spouse: Anne Morgan



Name:
William Watkins

Registration Year:
1857

Registration Quarter:
Jul-Aug-Sep

Registration district:Neath
Inferred County:Glamorganshire

Volume:11a
Page:227

SimontheScholar

SimontheScholar Report 27 Apr 2015 23:40

no sorry Mike

William was born in Neath and his wife was Catherine Reynold/Reynolds, born 1774 in Neath

Mike *

Mike * Report 28 Apr 2015 00:00



Can I ask how you have verified you have the right marriage for William.


Someone else has Catherine Reynold married to a different William Watkin


PARISH RECORD
Name: William Watkin
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1792
Event Place: Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
Spouse's Name: Catherine Reynold
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FROM A TREE ON ANCESTRY

WILLIAM WATKIN
Birth: 1770 - Glamorgan, Wales
Parents: Thomas Watkins, Elizabeth Watkins
Spouse: Catherine Reynold

SimontheScholar

SimontheScholar Report 28 Apr 2015 00:06

The one with William having parents of Thomas and Elizabeth is inaccurate as I have been to the archives in Swansea. The index does not give a William Watkin born to Thomas or Elizabeth, only a Rees and mary

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 28 Apr 2015 09:08

To explain.......

When people ask for info about what are assumed to be ancestors, they are generally supposed to have worked back from themselves to that person, or people

So....how did you get back from yourself to William?

If you are so sure about his wife's identity, one has to assume that one of his children with her is your direct, proven (backed up by documentation), line.

SimontheScholar

SimontheScholar Report 28 Apr 2015 15:06

I am descended from their son William.

William is on the 1851, 1861, 1871 and 1881 census.

It lists his year of birth as 1800, the last census being 1803.

Looking at the baptisms, the only one that matches is William Watkin, baptised in 1818 aged 16.

His parents were William, a labourer and Catherine

The only marriage that fits in the entire index is the one with William and Catherine Reynold

Mike *

Mike * Report 28 Apr 2015 16:27

Not understanding " the last census being 1803"

So which one of William's children are you descended from ?
Who ever it is do you have a birth certificate for that child stating the maiden name of Catherine the mother ?.

SimontheScholar

SimontheScholar Report 28 Apr 2015 16:55

sorry, in the 1881 census, the last census he was on before he died, his birth year was given as 1803.

I am descended from William's son William, born 1802. He had a son named William, born in 1835. He had a son named William, born 1858, he had a daughter named Rebecca, born in 1899. Rebecca's daughter Elvira is my grandmother.

I don't have a birth certificate for William, just a baptism record for him in 1818

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Apr 2015 17:03

So working back, are these the right families?



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
53 Prospect Place Neath, Neath (Parish and Town), Glamorganshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
>>William Watkins Head Married Male 53 1858 Glamorgan Neath Collier Hewer
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Kate Watkins Wife Married Female 47 1864 Cornwell Hantsby -
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Lucy Watkins Daughter - Female 12 1899 Betters Glam School
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>>>Rebecca Watkins Daughter - Female 11 1900 Betters Glam School
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Emily Watkins Daughter - Female 8 1903 Glamorgan Neath -
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Andrew Watkins Son - Male 7 1904 Glamorgan Neath -
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Steven Watkins Son - Male 3 1908 Glamorgan Neath -
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Richard Watkins Son - Male 2 1909 Glamorgan Neath



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pontrhydddu Cottages, 6, Lower Llangynwyd, Llangynwyd Lower, Bridgend, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Watkins Head Married Male 43 1858 Coal Miner (Hewer) Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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Catherine Watkins Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Cornwall, England
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David H Watkins Son Single Male 18 1883 Coal Miner (Hewer) Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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John N Watkins Son Single Male 16 1885 Coal Miner (Filler) Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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William J Watkins Son Single Male 14 1887 Coal Miner (Filler) Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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James Watkins Son - Male 11 1890 - Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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Edward Watkins Son - Male 9 1892 - Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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Elizabeth A Watkins Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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Licy Watkins Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Bettws, Glamorgan, Wales
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Rebecca Watkins Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Bettws, Glamorgan, Wales




1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cribbs Row, Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Watkins Head Married Male 33 1858 Coal Miner Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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Kate Watkins Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Cornwall, England
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David Watkins Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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John N Watkins Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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William Watkins Son - Male 4 1887 - Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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James Watkins Son - Male 2 1889 - Neath, Glamorgan, Wales




1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4, Cribbs Row, Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
>>William Watkins Head Married Male 46 1835 Coal Miner Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales
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Ann Watkins Wife Married Female 43 1838 Coal Miners Wife Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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>>William Watkins Son Single Male 23 1858 Coal Miner Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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David Watkins Son Single Male 21 1860 Coal Miner Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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Lucy Watkins Daughter Single Female 15 1866 Duster In Tin Works Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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James Watkins Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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Edward Watkins Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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Margaret A Watkins Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
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Richard Watkins Son Single Male 2 1879 Scholar Neath, Glamorgan, Wales




1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Harriss Court, Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Watkins Head - Male 36 1835 - Glamorgan, Wales
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Ann Watkins Wife - Female 33 1838 - Glamorgan, Wales
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William Watkins Son - Male 13 1858 - Glamorgan, Wales
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David Watkins Son - Male 11 1860 - Glamorgan, Wales
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Lucy Watkins Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Glamorgan, Wales
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James Watkins Son - Male 2 1869 - Glamorgan, Wales



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Green Court, Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Watkins Head Married Male 26 1835 Collier -
Neath
Ann Watkins Wife Married Female 23 1838 Colliers Wife -
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William Watkins Son - Male 3 1858 Colliers Son -
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David Watkins Son - Male 1 1860 Colliers Son -
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Richard Williams Boarder Unmarried Male 24 1837 Plasterer -