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Exams for 7 yr olds - Your views needed please

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*Helen S

*Helen S Report 21 Nov 2007 21:47

My OH, who is a primary school teacher said that although you do need to assess the children to see which level they are working at that this way seems a bit extreme, there are plenty of other ways, which are less pressurised.
I know my children, as I mentioned before aren't having this sort of formal exams for assessment, neither do my friends children who attend a different school. It would seem to be something this school is trying, I would think if enough parents are unhappy then the school may decide to try another method of assessment.
I'm staggered to think that they haven't considered the implacations of testing children on things they haven't been taught.

♥~Muffy! ~♥

♥~Muffy! ~♥ Report 21 Nov 2007 21:55

No Errol not really. Government sats I can understand to a point. But she is already tested 3 times weekly - if the teacher can't assess progress from that plus normal school work then I despair!

I wouldn't like to sit an exam about nuclear physics as I know nothing about it and if I were seven I'd be worried about it. Fortunately I'm 37 and I would think *stuff it* she doesn't have that privilege. Sadly for her.

I wouldn't object to her being tested on work she has been taught. That's school and you have to knuckle down and get on with it that's life I totally agree.
xx

♥**♥Straykitten♥**♥

♥**♥Straykitten♥**♥ Report 21 Nov 2007 21:56

i think sats r brill for older children
but primary age should be ongoin assesments
altho maybe an exam in yr 6 is gud but b4 that nope

kids have enough to put up wit in life without the added pressure

i no lyk i say from pre skool if one of my kids had a lacking in an area we were their to sort it out and help and suport them and we nvr had no formal tests

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 21 Nov 2007 22:00

37 and you know nothing of nuclear physics? Shame on you!

To be serious, that is not what I said. I said I agree with SATS but I also said that it sounds like the school introduced the "exam" somewhat prematurely in this instance.

Eileen

Eileen Report 21 Nov 2007 22:00


By the way, Rudolf etc. I do hope that the spelling and punctuation in your postings are meant to be sarcastic, particularly as you say you taught pre-school. If they are not sarcastic, then perhaps you think too fast, and do not proof-read your posting before pressing the button.
No offence intended
Eileen

♥**♥Straykitten♥**♥

♥**♥Straykitten♥**♥ Report 21 Nov 2007 22:03

yes that is correct i do type really fast and i never proof read
i also type in txt tlk so miss me vowels out a lot of the tym

but as long as ppl no wat i mean then thats ok

no offence taken hun

stray
xxxx

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 21 Nov 2007 22:06

I disagree with SATS even thought both of mine had extra support in after school classes to get through them as it is all about league tables and becon schools which get a higher status and funding, primary children only need regular ad-hoc testing that is fun and meaningful to the child and not to a league postition

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 21 Nov 2007 22:09

Contrary to popular belief, SATS is not just about league tables.
And schools certainly do NOT obtain different funding depending on SATS results!

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 21 Nov 2007 22:12

Well I beg to differ Errol as they were the words of the headteacher of my childs primary school and he asked parents to petiton the Goverment to stop the SATs and he ran a becon school that was held as the top performing primary in Sheffield

The SATs do in his words go towards becon status which also gives extra status and funding..........his words not mine.....

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 21 Nov 2007 22:14

I am not a fan o SATs having watch my 14yr old go through hell this summer as the teachers put them under that much pressure so for 7 yrs old for me is a big no.no FGS I wish they would remeber they are children...

*Helen S

*Helen S Report 21 Nov 2007 22:15

May I add that if a school has better sats results, more parents want to send their children there, and schools are funded on how many children are enrolled. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I won't be offended (unless it starts with - You idiot...lol)

♥**♥Straykitten♥**♥

♥**♥Straykitten♥**♥ Report 21 Nov 2007 22:16

tht is ryt helen hun


stray
xxxx

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 21 Nov 2007 22:19

You are quite right, Helen. A large part of the funding is based on "bums on seats".

Beacon Status (if that is what you are referring to) is slightly different.
I am a governor at my daughter's school and sit on the finance committee and if you know of ways to obtain funding through SATS results I would love to know - we could do with the extra dosh lol

♥~Muffy! ~♥

♥~Muffy! ~♥ Report 21 Nov 2007 22:20

37 and you know nothing of nuclear physics? Shame on you!


pmsl Errol

I'm googling as we speak hon xx

♥**♥Straykitten♥**♥

♥**♥Straykitten♥**♥ Report 21 Nov 2007 22:23

me either hun lol

must go have a word with me dad tomorow find sumit out lol

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 21 Nov 2007 22:23

For those not sure, the Beacon programme which ended a couple of years ago identified high performing schools in a bid to share good practice so of course SATS played a part in that because it identified high performing schools.

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 21 Nov 2007 22:24

No need to be rude and laugh Errol, I quoted a head teacher and not my words .................suggest you visit your nearest beacon school and ask them

Ended a few years ago???...............they must be using old letter heads then, will let them know their mistake

♥~Muffy! ~♥

♥~Muffy! ~♥ Report 21 Nov 2007 22:27

Blimey Eileen !!!

Steady on girl !!!

People come on here for relaxation and a laugh. Txt speak on here doesn't mean people use it in the real world! No offence meant xx

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 21 Nov 2007 22:30

Maddie, it was phased out as a centrally funded programme in mid-2005.
You may have a similar thing at a local level but it is not a nationwide project anymore - no need to laugh!

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 21 Nov 2007 22:35

Must be South Yorkshire level then and they got extra funding through it and this bought a lot of the extra computers and subsidised the school trips etc

He was doing a talk to us parents before the SATS in 2005 and clearly said that he disagreed with them as they are not in the kids best interests and it is focused towards league tables etc hence why some schools dis-apply children
( I have first hand experience of this at a previous primary school where my son was dis-applied and they admitted it was to make the end results better - we removed my son because of this admission from them )