General Chat

Julie - just had a chuckle about Tesco's knowing all our shopping habits - thro' their loyalty card! How very true..... And hackers know all about our bank accounts... Doctors and hospitals know all about our health histories... Employers know our work history - CV Airlines know where we fly to and how often. Insurance companies know what cars we drive/houses we live in. Post Codes tell everyone so much about us... Don't think anyone has cottoned on to how often I go to the loo, yet!! Lily

If people refuse to pay in vast numbers then the govt will have to rethink, just as people made it quite clear that they weren't prepared to pay poll tax. nell

One more card to have to worry about losing! However, we seem to have got into such a pickle over illegal immigration, I suppose it's the only way to pin down who is actually IN this country. Having been to hospital recently and had to fill in all my details, for their records, it beats me how anyone can get access to treatment/benefits if they are not officially 'here', but there you go.... Lily

I don't agree. Firstly, it won't stop terrorists. None of the 9/1 terrorists had ever been arrested or suspected of ANY crime, which is exactly why they were chosen. They all used their real names and legitimate ID. Nor did the Spanish ID cards stop the Madrid bombings. I'm sure as rescue personel were picking up body parts they were all really happy that the corpses came with correct ID. Secondly, it only proves who you say you are on the day you collect the card. I have access to my sister's NI card, birth cert and passport - with half an hour I could change the photo and spend the rest of my life as her. After all, I will have an ID card to prove it, won't I?

Don't be disheartened because we may not get a chance to vote on the idea, so we must like it or lump it! STAND UP AND BE COUNTED If you feel strongly on certain issues then it must be voiced- it is your right! We cannot preach democracy to the rest of the world when our own house is not in order. lou

I'm totally against identity cards. The government know more than enough about me as it is. My electoral roll details have already been sold to companies all over the country by successive governments and I have cr*p coming through my letter box every day to prove it. And I soo object to paying for something I don't want. How on earth would it help the security of the country? Terrorists come in all shapes and forms and don't just come from abroad. Anyway, if someone is clever enough to devise an identity card there will be someone else clever enough to forge one.

That's what I think too, Brian. Jan :-))

You won't get to vote on it. Like it or lump it.

I.ve already said I,ve no objection to carrying one in principle ,providing it doesnt cost me the earth,as am pensioner, BUT once we have them what then??? Whos going to monitor it? Russian secret service type cars pulling up and demanding to see identity???? Cant see the point of them if nothing monitored,but then thats an infringment of our Civil Liberties Shirley

Steve, yes I'll probably be one of them. The time it takes any Government to introduce anything, my grandchildren will probably be arguing the same pros and cons in years to come. Has anyone heard whether we're supposed to get a vote on the issue? Jan :-))

--------I OBJECT TO IDENTITY CARDS-------- I oppose this new card system because I am extremely concerned with regards to our civil liberties. There has recently been a case in the press regarding a hacker who got into the pentagon (defense systems)etc and banks and there are many more behind him recruited by the criminals. With regards to the governments concern regarding security its all POPPYCOCK! Why can't we as an island police our borders when we have the technology through satellite to pin point were we are in the country. It seems they pull at our heart strings in collaboration with the media coverage on certain issues and I will not be fooled into this false sense of security and hope the public make a stand just like the poll tax. With regards to criminals the suited variety seem to never get caught. ..just letting off steam............... lou

Problem is, if they are introduced, are compulsory and there is a charge, will we have an option to say we wont....? Jan :-)))

most people dont seem to mind them but object to paying. Dx

I have absolutely no problem at all carrying ID card - BUT I do mind having to pay for it. Hopefully, if they do all they say eg fingerprints and iris recognition it will make it harder, at least for a while, before the criminals can forge them. Nothing's ever foolproof though. I don't believe it will infringe my human rights I think it is more likely to protect the law abiding population from the hangers on. Other countries who've had them for years take them for granted I think and they are a cover all, driving licence, passport etc etc. Only need to carry one document, not a whole handbag load LOL. Just my opinion. Jan

I have no problem carrying an ID card...... i do have a problem if i have to pay for it!

i would settle for that Dave ,but you ,and i know ,it's mugs like us that will land up paying the piper ,not the government ,or buisiness,the working man ,and woman looses out all the time.Fred.PtfT&A&G&G&S.

We have ID cards here but we didn't have to pay for them...when voting time comes round they make sure everyone who needs one has one and come round all the villages taking the photo's and then they bring them back when complete.....they make sure they are all up to date ie. new photo's....but no payment. If you get one any other time their is a small fee for the photo. Jacquie xxx

It will help big business stopping fraud etc why can they not cough up the cash Fred and the banks etc. Dave

Fair enough Dave ,but why do i get the feeling that the law abiding citizen is going to get screwed again ,while the criminals ,and forgers ,and the black marketeers ,.will be laughing all the way to the bank .Fred.PtfT&A&G&G&S.

Like I said earlier Fred I do not agree with any charging on them! If it keeps terrorist out of the country it will be a good thing only my opinion and I respect you very much as an ex seviceman. Dave