General Chat

Hello Harry Hayes, Happy Days. Nice to see you back on here. Haven't been on here for ages myself though. Yes, I do believe there is something else after this life. Margaret

Check out http://iands*org/research/ vanLommel/vanLommel*php (usual palaver with the *s) Rob

Ahhhhh...but is there life after Harry Hayes..that is the question. *sighs. BC XX ever faithful fan.....

Oops - just seen the dates of the posts! Oh, my - I am a slow one! Rob

Len! Good to see you couldn't keep out of this argument (psst - I agreed with your comments on your recent thread, but my response was deleted). As stated in a similar thread, I am developing a hypothesis that what we know as life is merely a form of entrapment within the the four dimensions of time and space. Death may be a release, allowing us access to more dimensions, and perhaps liberating us from time; it may also be our returning to the Creator, to answer for how we lived the lives that He allowed us to live as we felt fit. Whichever, one thing I do not think is that it is the end. Rob

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Researchers at Freiberg University, one of Germany’s oldest and most respected academic institutions,in June 2005 published a paper in the British Journal of Psychology suggesting that humans do have paranormal powers. What they investigated was “distant intentionality” a term devised to mean detecting the presence of another, hidden person without the use of the normal senses and/or affecting another mind over any distance by means of “a subtle energy field”. Investigations are being made in Holland, Britain and Canada into “Near Death Experience”. Studies in Holland, particularly by Dr P. Van Lommel of Rijnstate Hospital, whose team have interviewed hundreds of patients (in 10 hospitals across the country), who were resuscitated after being clinically dead, reached conclusions that “pushed at the limit of medical ideas about the range of human consciousness and the mind/brain relationship”. Christopher French of the Anomalistic Psychology Research Unit of Goldsmith College in London stated “if researchers could prove that clinically dead patients with no electrical activity in their cortex can be aware of what went on round them and form memories, this would suggest that the brain does not generate consciousness”. The late Robert Jahn, for 25 years Professor Emeritus of Princeton University, has done much research and repeatable experiments indicating than the human mind is able to insert information into computers and to some degree affect random information generators that makes the information “not quite so random” So own up - whose been nobbling ERNIE ? In para-psychology, perception of or knowledge of something achieved without using our usual physical sense organs is usually criticized as trickery or over-active imagination. This applies to seeing or sensing non-physical phenomena, having premonitions, thought reading, “knowing” when one is being gazed at by an unseen observer or knowing that the ‘phone is about to ring, and sensing who is calling. There is a long history of ESP (extra-sensory perception) but it is impossible to collect and study all the evidence as ESP is not robustly reproducible under conditions of scientific experiment. The reach of the mind is enormous and much research is ongoing with thousands of researchers in many countries. It is not only ESP but many of the normal functions of the brain which although universally acknowledged and used (e.g. hypnosis and stem-cell activity) are “not fully understood”, a scientific euphemism for “haven’t got a clue”. The universe consists of matter in motion. There is nothing but matter; atoms, sub-atomic particles all on the move. All things and all matter (including you and me and whatever we are sitting on) are made of something that already existed - since matter is indestructible. All forms of energy, which are obtained from constituent atoms, which are vibrating, are transferable into one another without loss or gain. It is a fundamental law of physics and the universe that matter and energy cannot be destroyed, only transmuted into another form. What form is that? Usually chemicals and some sort of energy such as heat or electricity although there are many, many forms of energy. If brain and mind are two separate entities, capable of being separated and re-joined, and the latest findings of science indicate it looks that way, it is not a great leap to postulate that if either is terminated in is existing form then it must be transmuted into something else. The brain of course will suffer a chemical breakdown, and revert to mainly water, a few chemicals such as potassium, sodium etc and release a bit of heat in the process. But what of the mind? Where does that go - and how? len

Harry On reading today wot I writ yesterday, about x-rays, I noticed some words had gone missing. Have since corrected and hope it makes more sense. len

xcus my typo, most definately man servants, heard they do our exercise and everything, turn pages all those trivial tasks. lol

debs, No man servants, now thats put a dampner on things!!lol

CB - I heard we ever get man servants on those clouds. lol

I would like to think there is something after death. I like to keep an open mind about most things. Life after death hasn't been proven, but it hasn't been proven that there is no life after death. I think, my opinion only, that over the years we have discovered scientific explanations for things that puzzled our ancestors and that we will continue to discover explanations for 'happenings?' that we can't explain today. Very interesting topic, thanks Harry. Susan

C.B, ill keep you to that, whoever gets there first gets the drinks in;-)) x Deb, I agree I think we would all benefit from it, and make the world a better place Im sure. Rox x

Rox, most certainly, really changed how I look at life and what's important, what's not, what's worth getting upset about and what's not worth the worry, concern or care. Sometimes I think more should face an experience like this, would have more people appreciate what they have in life.

Roxanne, Thank you. You are one person I would love to spend lazy days with, sitting on a comfy cloud with a glass of nectar, discussing the evils of the world and putting them to rights. CB >|< X

debs, Thats very interesting, did it change your life at all?

Hi Harry, like Pauline said earlier, I also read a lot of Edgar Cayce many years ago. He has some very interesting concepts about after life, death, reincarnation etc. Hard to dispute some things that you can't explain. On a personal note I had a near death experience many years ago. Was in a comma for over a week and could tell a very interesting story about who I met while I was out. On a different note, for those who have asked yes we can hear people talking to us when were in a comma. Heard every word. Deb

C.B, Im sure everything will be great for you In the next life, Your a lovely person, and I always think thats what decides our next life. Roxanne x

Well, Harry, I don't want to go through all this again, so I hope there isn't, in one way. In another, I hope there is. I would dearly love to revisit certain people if I pre-decease them - some of them because we have a pact that we'd try to contact one another, others because they deserve the fright of their lives. But then again, if I were still alive after I left here, I might end up somewhere with all the 'orrible people I've been so glad to see the back of while I've remained here, so I'm really not sure if I want another shot at it or not. Perhaps I should ask for a vote on it? But not on GR. LOL CB >|<

Hi Mike, you haven't misquoted - neither have I. You have used what looks like the Authorised Version - I happen to have used the New International Version. Different sentence structures, certainly (and I deleted the verse numbers for ease of reading) - but I don't see that I have misquoted... Regards, William